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↑ I have yet to see a dummy that is better looking than the real thing.
Y'see, when it comes to Honami, even the dummy is more beautiful than most other phones you care to mention.
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Posted: 2013-08-29 19:11:56
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On 2013-08-29 19:02:25, northmonkey wrote:
I'm not being a troll just being honest.
The 1020 will blow the Honami camera out of the water by a million miles.
Maybe, but Honami will decimate 1020 in
EVERY OTHER AREA!
If your only criteria about phones revolves solely on camera, then buy a nice camera!
Remember, these are phones we're talking about, and 1020 has virtually no advantages in that field.
[ This Message was edited by: Ambivalent_ on 2013-08-29 18:12 ]
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Posted: 2013-08-29 19:12:23
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What is the difference between the Global LTE version and the Global LTE2 version?
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Posted: 2013-08-29 19:25:33
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On 2013-08-29 19:25:33, nightwing369 wrote:
What is the difference between the Global LTE version and the Global LTE2 version?
LTE Bands (ZU is LTE-A compatible so LTE/LTE2 are just band variations)
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Posted: 2013-08-29 19:37:09
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Going back a couple pages, I don't really see why a smaller device (between 4 and 4.3 inches) couldn't handle the SnapDragon 800. Size isn't really that much of an issue, given that its produced using the same 28nm fabrication process as the SD600. If thermals are such an issue, then you can underclock the CPU to 1.7GHz or something, or maybe have a 2.3GHz dual core version.
SD800 uses Krait 400 cores vs the Krait 300 cores used in the SD600 and below, so even an underclocked or dual core variant would provide some degree of a performance boost. Especially on a 720p device.
Main advantage though is the Adreno 330, which is basically almost 2x the performance of of the 320, so will help considerably with UI performance and of course mobile gaming.
I mean, I'm pretty sure the iPhone 5S will perform close to, if not as good as SD800 devices, while having a 4-inch screen.
[ This Message was edited by: -XYZ on 2013-08-29 18:45 ]
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Posted: 2013-08-29 19:44:30
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On 2013-08-29 19:44:30, -XYZ wrote:
Going back a couple pages, I don't really see why a smaller device (between 4 and 4.3 inches) couldn't handle the SnapDragon 800. Size isn't really that much of an issue, given that its produced using the same 28nm fabrication process as the SD600. If thermals are such an issue, then you can underclock the CPU to 1.7GHz or something, or maybe have a 2.3GHz dual core version.
SD800 uses Krait 400 cores vs the Krait 300 cores used in the SD600 and below, so even an underclocked or dual core variant would provide some degree of a performance boost. Especially on a 720p device.
Main advantage though is the Adreno 330, which is basically almost 2x the performance of of the 320, so will help considerably with UI performance and of course mobile gaming.
I mean, I'm pretty sure the iPhone 5S will perform close to, if not as good as SD800 devices, while having a 4-inch screen.
[ This Message was edited by: -XYZ on 2013-08-29 18:45 ]
Again, feel free to point out wich 4 inch phone uses Snapdragon 600? Thats a pointless argument to make since Snapdragon 600 is not exactly a small chip either.
And you cant "have a dual-core version", its not a pick and choose market, Qualcomm sells the Snapdragon 800 in a finished package, it comes in two different bins, 2.2 GHz and 2.3 GHz but thats it, if you want a dual-core then you have to buy a different SoC from them. Thats what Motorola did with the Moto X
Apple can do it because they use dual-cores and clock their CPUs low wich gives them more TDP room for their beefy GPUs. Even if the iPhone 5S is a quad-core i expect it to be clocked around 1,5-1,7 Ghz max
Adreno 330 is also not 2X Adreno 320, only in GPGPU tasks wich is not currently being used in Android. In 3D performance its 50% faster
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Posted: 2013-08-29 20:28:40
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On 2013-08-29 19:02:25, northmonkey wrote:
I'm not being a troll just being honest.
The 1020 will blow the Honami camera out of the water by a million miles.
Outdoors when the sun is shining.. not that much of a difference.
Low light - yes.
Flash - yes.
Overall camera flexibility.. yes.
Eventually Sony will have to produce a proper camera phone, but the Honami isn't it.
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Posted: 2013-08-29 21:06:12
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On 2013-08-29 20:28:40, Jubei1 wrote:
On 2013-08-29 19:44:30, -XYZ wrote:
Going back a couple pages, I don't really see why a smaller device (between 4 and 4.3 inches) couldn't handle the SnapDragon 800. Size isn't really that much of an issue, given that its produced using the same 28nm fabrication process as the SD600. If thermals are such an issue, then you can underclock the CPU to 1.7GHz or something, or maybe have a 2.3GHz dual core version.
SD800 uses Krait 400 cores vs the Krait 300 cores used in the SD600 and below, so even an underclocked or dual core variant would provide some degree of a performance boost. Especially on a 720p device.
Main advantage though is the Adreno 330, which is basically almost 2x the performance of of the 320, so will help considerably with UI performance and of course mobile gaming.
I mean, I'm pretty sure the iPhone 5S will perform close to, if not as good as SD800 devices, while having a 4-inch screen.
[ This Message was edited by: -XYZ on 2013-08-29 18:45 ]
Again, feel free to point out wich 4 inch phone uses Snapdragon 600? Thats a pointless argument to make since Snapdragon 600 is not exactly a small chip either.
And you cant "have a dual-core version", its not a pick and choose market, Qualcomm sells the Snapdragon 800 in a finished package, it comes in two different bins, 2.2 GHz and 2.3 GHz but thats it, if you want a dual-core then you have to buy a different SoC from them. Thats what Motorola did with the Moto X
Apple can do it because they use dual-cores and clock their CPUs low wich gives them more TDP room for their beefy GPUs. Even if the iPhone 5S is a quad-core i expect it to be clocked around 1,5-1,7 Ghz max
Adreno 330 is also not 2X Adreno 320, only in GPGPU tasks wich is not currently being used in Android. In 3D performance its 50% faster
That's fair enough I guess.
Still, can't they underclock the SD800 to 1.5-1.7 GHz? Wouldn't that alleviate most of the thermal and batter problems?
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Posted: 2013-08-29 21:21:28
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Good post jubei1!
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Posted: 2013-08-29 22:29:55
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The initial range will use 16-megapixel Sony CMOS sensors with optical image stabilization, and they will also have a degree of support for NFC, SD cards and WiFi. Buyers will only have to choose between a thin lens with 10X zoom and a thicker, 15X variant
Via ENGADGET
-Oppo
When did Sony make 16mp CMOS sensor?? Oppo is gonna use it for its next flagship.
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2013-08-29 21:49 ]
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Posted: 2013-08-29 22:42:42
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