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I dont know what your expectations on cellphone cameras are, mine is to snap some pictures whenever i dont have my camera with me. Think that's pretty much what they last for. (cellphones is hardly something you use for its splendid fullsize quality)

So if you heading for a Pulitzer prize, I suggest you use a real camera
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Posted: 2009-02-22 17:24:03
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What could one expect from a cam the size of a front tooth.Miracle!
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Posted: 2009-02-22 17:46:51
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For the most part, I agree with there. With the current kameramobil models, you must ask for the perfect lighting or a miracle before you start taking pictures. CMOS technology develops very quickly, but manufacturers are shrinking the sensors at the same rate as the result is that image quality does not improve significantly.
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IMHO, there are two exceptions: the ZN5 and the INNOV8. SE and Nokia do not come close in IQ to these two models.
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2009-02-22 17:49 ]
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Posted: 2009-02-22 18:38:38
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I really dont see why so many people are upset about the lack of a video call camera. Since i first go a 3G phone a V630i from Vodafone a few years ago... Through K800i, K810i, K850i and now my G700 i actually dont think i ever used it... Its not a great feature on a phone and not much of a sacrifice... If you really want to see the person just add a picture to the contact... Problem solved....

As for improvements over the K850i Its much thinner and lighter without sacrificing the xenon flash which is very important, and why i didnt go for the C902, and it has a proper lens cover...

All in all i think this is a very good phone, minimal moving parts so very little to go wrong, all the camera features of the C902 with the added flash... So a pretty good mid-range upgrade that ill probly end up going for....
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Posted: 2009-02-22 19:11:52
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At last, a mobile that has all the specifications I seek.torch, flash, good camera, camera hatch, small, mineral glass, rapidly os, good battery, good buttons and as large a screen as possible.Like a Swiss armyknife.If it`s time to fill the black hole when they relese it I go for it ( I´m keeping the entire mobile industri going all by my self).

[ This Message was edited by: karlsson on 2009-02-23 07:37 ]
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Posted: 2009-02-22 19:59:32
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I get your point. how many cellphones have great, noise free full size quality ? (not many i guess).
thats why i think comparing full size pictures taken with cellphones is a waste of time.

however, watching full size images taken with a real camera is a lot of joy. there you at least have the possibility to use them in bigger sizes and still looking good.

a teaser by Nikon D3, (now we talking ).
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D3/Y_DSC6954.HTM
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Posted: 2009-02-22 20:11:47
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But then how do you propose comparing different camphones' noise reduction and sharpening if not at full size? Do you feel that there is a maximum resolution at which camphone comparisons should be made? Or is it that noise reduction and sharpening are immaterial and only white balance, color saturation and contrast should be considered and therefor always comparisons should be made at reduced sizes? How are we then ever to know whether the 12 MP Odie (or whatever it's called) is better than for example the 3 MP K770? Not to mention the wasted memory stick space with all those pixels that always will be averaged together or thrown away when shrinking to webpage-friendly sizes.

Don't get me wrong here. I understand your point but I just want to show why some of us like pixel peeping at camphone photos...
For me noise reduction and sharpening is more important (and the less the better) than white balance. White balance can almost always be fixed later but too much noise reduction kills details which cannot be recovered. The same with too much sharpening. Those sharpened up noise speckles you see in full size C902 shots are a pain to get rid of.

[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2009-02-22 20:41 ]
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Posted: 2009-02-22 21:07:12
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How about comparing pictures at the sizes you are actually going to use in your everyday life. I doubt there are too many average joes out there with family and friends watching full size 8 or 12 MP pictures with magnification glasses.

Just my 2 cents.

[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2009-02-23 12:58 ]
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Posted: 2009-02-23 13:26:05
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@abubasim. I agree that innov8 and zn5 have very good quality, but its hardly something i would print out in full size and use as a poster on my wall

@arne anka. precisely, there is no need to compare cellphone pictures in some other way, (its just a matter of worse or less worse).
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Posted: 2009-02-23 13:57:20
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I've posted three pictures with three different phones on the line other manufacturers.It is very difficult to see any differens at all.Then I must enlarge the picture.And how often does one do that.One 2.0 mp af,3.2 af and 3.15 fixfocus.Have a glance and judge.
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Posted: 2009-02-23 14:29:00
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