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On 2014-10-09 20:18:53, aussieland1 wrote:
difenbaker
It is obvious that your agenda is with the company. My question is why do you buy their products/ if indeed you are? I never see you saying anything good about them surely you should buy things that bring you pleasure? And why keep posting the bending thing over and over ? can you not at least edit some of your posts? And just out of curiosity - you keep saying you don't want Apple to take you for a fool but you also said you are not interested in this phone anyway. I in the other hand am and would like to see something else but the bending issue
That's exactly it... I really was interested in buying the phone. I often asked myself, seeing all the rumors (some I posted here)... if this can actually replace my N3. If you see my previous post about the N4... I was interested on how it would stack up against the 6 (which was about to be announced back then).
I guess I got disappointed because I expected a lot from Apple. I thought they were OVER that concept of releasing products half-baked then correcting them later in next versions. The 4 was corrected with the 4s, the 5 with the 5s, the iPad 3 with the iPad 4, etc... First releases tend to be buggy or lacking (as I've noticed with both phone and the OS). I expected Apple to do better this time, since I thought, all those disasters from the past was behind them. Learning from mistakes and all that. Clearly, they haven't... and worse, they're back to their old tricks again... of shifting the blame to someone or something else.
And speaking about distortion all the foxin guy said why are people so keen on bending their phones which I totally get. It has been proven that if enough force is applied the phone will bend/ what else is there to prove? I don't see where you got that he is blaming the users
Are you pertaining to the guy from Foxconn? That article said that:
"Hands are made* to shake hands, not for bending,” he advised.
Dont you find that ridiculous... who is this guy to tell us how and where to use our hands?
Here's another quote:
CEO Terry Gou maintains that people need to stop trying to bend their phones, and said claims that the phones were bendy were simply (pardon the pun) "distortions".
So you see... It was heavily implied that the people are bending the phone - he would of course never admit that the phone has a design flaw that allows people to bend it easily, right?
On 2014-10-09 20:18:53, aussieland1 wrote:
One thing I do know though- the phone won't bend by itself. And I know this because a few people I already know didn't have their phones bender. But obviously you are ignoring that
Yes, of course, it doesn't bend by itself - I aint ignoring that, I mean NO PHONE would bend by itself. There has to be some kind of force behind it for it to react like that. Some put in their pockets, some leave it charging and it heats up, some say that they outright "babied it and put it in a case" and yet it still bent. Whatever the cause... for me, it just means that there IS a very real problem with the phone.
Good that you know people with unbent phones...I know those too, but I also know of around 4 already with bent phones.... and just how bad they're feeling right now.
cheers!
[ This Message was edited by: difenbaker on 2014-10-09 20:43 ]
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Posted: 2014-10-09 21:35:21
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Sorry but claims that the phone overheated while charging and then it bent are ridiculous and same goes with the claim that it was babied and kept in a case and yet it still bent. Obviously it is your right to believe it but I think it is outright crap and certainly not representative for the iphone 6 plus in general. If enough force is applied and in a certain place it was proven that the phone will bent - there is no dispute about that but the rest is just hearsay and if this what you base your theory that there is a real problem then I am feeling confident about the 6 plus.
And about what the CEO from Fixconn said it is obvious he meant stop bending the phone on purpose - it is by no means blaming the customers in general but the ones that are recording themselves bending the phone and then posting that video online . I fail to see where is Apple blaiming customers in regards to the bending issue though ?
And about hate whole iPhone corrected by the next generation - well iphone 5 scuffing problem was corrected well before the iPhone 5s came out and the reAson I knwo this is because I had one . Now I have an iPhone 6 , I had it for 2-3 weeks and I am wondering what is the fatal flaw that you are talking about? It is certainly not bent, doesn't overhat while charging .... I am just curious what it wrong with it?
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Posted: 2014-10-09 22:23:12
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On 2014-10-09 22:23:12, aussieland1 wrote:
Sorry but claims that the phone overheated while charging and then it bent are ridiculous and same goes with the claim that it was babied and kept in a case and yet it still bent.
Yup, it's not 'representative' of the 6+... It's not widespread at all too... Or else it will be all over the news.
But the fact remains that it did happen to some.
That's right, at the end of the day, we choose what we want to believe. So by the same token, one shouldn't be at fault for choosing not to.
And about hate whole iPhone corrected by the next generation - well iphone 5 scuffing problem was corrected well before the iPhone 5s came out and the reAson I knwo this is because I had one .
Again, it's personal preference... For myself, that's been my experience. The one that follows corrects the previous one.
One good example is ios8... If I had been an early adopter. I would've been affected by its bugs. My decision to wait.. turned out to be the right one (again)...but even up to now, it's not yet all fixed. (See ios thread pls).
Now I have an iPhone 6 , I had it for 2-3 weeks and I am wondering what is the fatal flaw that you are talking about? It is certainly not bent, doesn't overhat while charging .... I am just curious what it wrong with it?
We'll, I think it's good that you don't have a bent phone. It's also good that you don't have friends with bent phones. Or hasn't had any problems with returning phones. But just because you don't have it... Does it follow that others are not having problems too? Flaw? Well, if the problems of bending isn't enough to convince you that there's an obvious design flaw... then sure, you're entitled to your opinion. As I am entitled to mine.
.... If I may reiterate this one more time... its not a question of "if the phone will bend", I mean, all phones can bend if given enough force. The question is, "how EASY it is to bend?" Its about the sturdiness, robustness, or durability of the phone that's being put in the spotlight.
cheers!
[ This Message was edited by: difenbaker on 2014-10-10 00:00 ]
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Posted: 2014-10-10 00:39:43
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Well, at least it's not as bad as the Note 4. That thing also bends plus has a gap big enough to put a business card in it.
So, I guess that the 6+ is still a better choice for a phablet in the end
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Posted: 2014-10-10 20:24:34
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If all goes to plan I should be getting my iPhone plus 64gb tomorrow, and I cant wait. Hopefully it wont be as easy to bend as all the reports say it is.
Like all my phones it will be very well looked after so there will be excuse if it does bend at all. Time will tell
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Posted: 2014-10-10 20:33:08
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Lemmy
It would be great if you mange to buy it - would be nice to read the opinion of a real user for a change in this thread
[ This Message was edited by: aussieland1 on 2014-10-10 20:11 ]
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Posted: 2014-10-10 21:10:16
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Thank Aussie. Its quite refreshing not to be called stupid or ignorant for choosing one phone over another which seems to be the norm on here for some members.
If I manage to get my hands on it I'll let you know fella. It means I'm going to be away from WP8 for a while but I've been looking forward to a large screen iPhone and I just have to give it a go.
I'll be in touch.......hopefully
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Posted: 2014-10-10 21:52:11
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On 2014-10-10 21:10:16, aussieland1 wrote:
Lemmy
It would be great if you mange to buy it - would be nice to read the opinion of a real user for a change in this thread
[ This Message was edited by: aussieland1 on 2014-10-10 20:11 ]
May I ask what you mean exactly? So all those posts in apple support forums, youtube, reddit, twitter, etc... were made by people who are not real iphone users?? Wow!
Anyway, as if to prove my point above, that not all Apple Stores are the same. And returning is NOT a smooth process always...this article just showed up:
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Expect Some Suspense When Replacing Your Bent iPhone 6 at the Apple Store
Customer says he was denied a replacement at first
By Filip Truta on October 10th, 2014 10:01 GMT
Via a Support representative, Apple confirmed last month that it would replace any iPhone 6 that suffered from the apparent #bendgate issue free of charge, upon visual inspection.
That turned out not to be the case at one Apple store (Walden Galleria Mall in Buffalo, NY), where a person wanted to swap a bent iPhone 6 Plus for a new one after discovering the flaw and opening a thread on Reddit.
Apple’s policy
As noted above, Apple last month said via a Support rep that the company would replace bent units after an inspection by the store’s staff. The Support guy said (asked if Apple would indeed replace bent phones), “That is 100% up to the Genius that you speak with at the store.”
“There is a test called a Visual Mechanical Inspection that the device will have to pass,” the Apple representative told The Next Web. “If it is within the guidelines, they will be able to cover it. If not, the replacement would be paid,” the representative said.
The refusal
Identified as mastercheif on Reddit, an iPhone 6 Plus owner realized one day that his phone had bent. He didn’t know how or why, and this is the second such case we’ve heard about. However, that still doesn’t mean these people did nothing wrong. After all, they have no recollection of doing anything wrong to the thousand-dollar device, or they won’t admit it for fear that they won’t get a replacement from Apple. In fact, that’s what our guy mastercheif must have been feeling when he shared the story with the world.
He went into the store asking for his phone to be replaced. He said he had talked to two employees there, and one of them allegedly said:
“Apple has not indicated to us at this time that this is a manufacturing issue. You can use an AppleCare+ replacement if you want.”
He then claims to have talked to a manager for a
full hour and “explained” that he had a Reddit thread on the issue, without even thinking for a second that his claims would start to sound like threats or blackmail.
“Apple has told us that it is not a problem with the phones,” the manager replied. “We need to make sure we are being consistent, especially with you're going to tell a thousand people about this. We are not replacing bent phones at this time. If something changes, I will let you know.”
Sounds to us like a safe approach on behalf of the store manager. However, Apple should have at least inspected the guy’s phone before refusing to replace it. We can’t know for sure where the discussions went wrong, but one thing is certain: the Apple Store, Walden Galleria Mall in Buffalo, NY is not the best place to get your bent iPhone exchanged.
The victory lap
User mastercheif then visited another store and swapped the phone no problem.
“The genius was entirely sympathetic and didn't question me beyond ‘have you sat on it? Do you know how it happened?’ He then promptly used the ‘Early Field Failure Analysis’ option on his iPad and ran to the back to grab a replacement. My faith is restored.”
Go figure.
http://news.softpedia.com/new[....]t-the-Apple-Store-461694.shtml
http://www.news.nom.co/expect[....]-when-replacing-12850551-news/
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Posted: 2014-10-10 22:53:29
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@difenbaker
I meant in this thread - all that was posted so far was every bit of negative press that you could find about Apple on the net. I would love to read experience of people using the phone - as difficult as it may be for you to understand there are more things to this phone than the bending
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Posted: 2014-10-10 23:07:04
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On 2014-10-10 20:24:34, ardzuna wrote:
Well, at least it's not as bad as the Note 4. That thing also bends plus has a gap big enough to put a business card in it.
That is easy to rectify, just INSPECT the unit before you buy, that's it...problem solved.
But in the iphone 6, can you bend the phone before you buy? Just to see if it will bend or not?
Yup, it also bends, but if you look at the video - the bending is not as much as the 6+, and you can bend it BACK without cracking the screen.
(see the video in the note thread pls).
So, I guess that the 6+ is still a better choice for a phablet in the end
Really? And HOW is it a better choice? Do you mean to say that a bent phone is better than one with a gap?
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Posted: 2014-10-10 23:12:25
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