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@mib, NOW it's perfect
On 2007-09-21 20:08:19, londonlad123 wrote:
On 2007-09-21 19:44:14, mib1800 wrote:
max_wedge
this I admit is one of SE ui weakness, and it's related to it's not being a smartphone by heritage. Java apps not shortcutable.
But one key to go from standby to main menu, another to activity menu, honestly not of concern to me. big deal? Ideally though, SE non-smartphone UI will adopt active standby screen (K800 is part way there)
Didnt you say SE UI is better than "ALL" of S60?
Apparently k850 onwards you can assign apps as shortcuts, like to the directions of the dpad in standby. left is usually set as new sms by default. You could then have opera mini as right joystick. Better than a main menu.
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Posted: 2007-09-22 02:12:21
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I know its bad to buy a phone when it first comes out but i just want it so bad and to know its out there and i could have it. After waiting so long i wont be able to wait so will buy it
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Posted: 2007-09-22 02:58:21
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@max_wedge
@mib, NOW it's perfect
It is not and you know it.
giancito
The video you took is it from a prototype? Without being rude, I have to say the quality is quite bad for
QVGA@30fps. And it certainly doesnt look like 30fps video. It looks like the SE infamous QCIF quality but with bigger size.
Like I said to max_wedge, my 2-years old N70 takes much better quality video (CIF@15fps) than these. Just hope SE can improve before release otherwise the QVGA video is no more than a gimmick.
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Posted: 2007-09-22 04:32:28
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giancito
The video you took is it from a prototype? Without being rude, I have to say the quality is quite bad for
QVGA@30fps. And it certainly doesnt look like 30fps video. It looks like the SE infamous QCIF quality but with bigger size.
Like I said to max_wedge, my 2-years old N70 takes much better quality video (CIF@15fps) than these. Just hope SE can improve before release otherwise the QVGA video is no more than a gimmick.
IF I'm not wrong, all k850 prototypes are producing only 15fps recordings. Maybe SE wants to give us surprises when final official launch is out (better camera performance, video perfoemance, etc etc......)
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Posted: 2007-09-22 05:16:03
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On 2007-09-22 04:32:28, mib1800 wrote:
It is not and you know it.
true
but I still prefer SE UI by a long shot (even without java shortcuts). No UI is perfect, including Nokia.
Like I said to max_wedge, my 2-years old N70 takes much better quality video (CIF@15fps) than these. Just hope SE can improve before release otherwise the QVGA video is no more than a gimmick.
I've only seen one sample of K800 video. My N70 recorded video pauses every couple of seconds or so in playback. It's unusable, is this normal for the N70? This is a freshly flashed (music edition) N70. So far I've not been impressed by the N70 for stability or performance.
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Posted: 2007-09-22 05:24:16
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Does anyone even record on their phone
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Posted: 2007-09-22 05:43:54
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On 2007-09-22 04:32:28, mib1800 wrote:
The video you took is it from a prototype? Without being rude, I have to say the quality is quite bad for
QVGA@30fps. And it certainly doesnt look like 30fps video. It looks like the SE infamous QCIF quality but with bigger size.
I think that sample provided was 15fps anyway? Sound seemed better than K800.
As per the whitepaper, if it is correct for prototype models, video encoding is in H.263. H.263 is designed for low bandwidth applications, so it smudges out detail whenever there is movement (ie higher throughput), but is clear on still frames. It would be better if it were H.264 or DivX.
Certainly SE haven't taken video much more seriously with the K850 than they did with the K800. Perhaps Sony are indeed leaning on SE to prevent inroads into the Sony Handycam market?
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Posted: 2007-09-22 05:45:36
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On 2007-09-22 05:43:54, Alexandra wrote:
Does anyone even record on their phone
occasionally, but I usually use my XDA mini not the K series of the day. If I had better video I'd use it more, but I'm not gonna sacrifice a good still camera for better video.
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Posted: 2007-09-22 05:53:22
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Yep neither would I.
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Posted: 2007-09-22 05:56:55
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On 2007-09-22 05:24:16, max_wedge wrote:
true
but I still prefer SE UI by a long shot (even without java shortcuts). No UI is perfect, including Nokia.
Fine by me if it is your preference. For me, I just can't get used to fixed main menu used in SE (smart or non-smart). I like to organise everything myself and in this aspect Nokia UI is light years ahead of SE UI. And in terms of logical flow, imo, S60 3-use menu-key (i.e. press to go to main menu, press again to standby and long press for task manager) is far more user friendly and logical than meddling around to find the relevant tab in the Activity Menu of SE UI.
Like you say, all UIs have their pros and cons. I am not saying S60 is the best, but saying K850/SE UI is the best is a bit overstretching it.
I've only seen one sample of K800 video. My N70 recorded video pauses every couple of seconds or so in playback. It's unusable, is this normal for the N70? This is a freshly flashed (music edition) N70. So far I've not been impressed by the N70 for stability or performance.
It is your low quality (or screwed) memory card problem. I had the same issue when I use a cheepo memory card. Once i switched to a sandisk one, the video is smooth flowing (no pause). You may also try defragmenting your memory card to see whether this helps.
btw: hope you know N70 is true multi-tasking. i.e. background apps compete for processor time. So the video pause may also be caused by running background apps interupting the processor
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Since I have my N95, I took more video than still photos.
Video taken by N95 is good enough to watch it on big screen tv.
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