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On 2008-05-07 00:25:35, imranbashir wrote:
I never said the phones were whipped together in a few weeks. What I said was they should announce the phone and release it within a few weeks like HTC or Apple.
[ This Message was edited by: imranbashir on 2008-05-06 23:28 ]
This is where SE always fails and doesn't learn: marketing. They can't develop a high-end phone silently in the background and present it when it is ready (this was the case with P990 in the past too). In the mid-range phones segment this seems to work already.
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Posted: 2008-05-07 00:52:09
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It’s very easy to tweak a design, dropping in a faster processor that’s pin compatible, larger flash prom device again pin compatible, mods like this are easy and cost no time in development.
Design times are not as long as you think, most are based on reference designs, so schematics are there, regulator circuits can be lifted from existing phones, flash memory is just bussed, none of this is very difficult and very easy to tweak in the early design stages of a phone.
Most phone design cycles are 12-18 months tops, with Xperia specs being announced 6 months or so before it’s released, any manufacturer could bring out a device that rivals it a short time after the Xperia is released.
Whether they will or not is a different matter, they might not want to target the uber high end market . HTC will have a further advantage of knowing the specs way before anyone else as they were the ODM / OEM.
Anyway this debate has gone way off course...
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Posted: 2008-05-07 00:56:58
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On 2008-05-07 00:56:58, imranbashir wrote:
...Most phone design cycles are 12-18 months tops, with Xperia specs being announced 6 months or so before it’s released, any manufacturer could bring out a device that rivals it a short time after the Xperia is released.
So testing your theory...why hasn't anyone trumped the iPhone yet?
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Posted: 2008-05-07 01:01:05
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On 2008-05-07 00:56:58, imranbashir wrote:
...Whether they will or not is a different matter, they might not want to target the uber high end market . HTC will have a further advantage of knowing the specs way before anyone else as they were the ODM / OEM.
Simply manufacturing a device for SE does not give HTC access to all the technologies and secrets of the X1. Patents and software/firmware are huge factors in giving one manufacturer an advantage over the other. HTC can't just simply "steal" SE's technology and implement it into their own design.
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Posted: 2008-05-07 01:15:57
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Hardware wise the iPhone was not that advanced, lacking even 3G! The only thing it bought at that was truly new was the software GUI.
Unfortunatly, software on WM devices are controlled by Microsoft, others have tried to allivate this problem TouchFLOW, PointUI, SPB mobile shell, etc..
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Posted: 2008-05-07 01:22:01
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Simply manufacturing a device for SE does not give HTC access to all the technologies and secrets of the X1. Patents and software/firmware are huge factors in giving one manufacturer an advantage over the other. HTC can't just simply "steal" SE's technology and implement it into their own design.
Exactly what do you think that Xperia has that is unique and patented that HTC would want to ‘steal’ but can’t.
Everything the Xperia has apart from panels has been tried and tested in someway on a WM device before.
Don’t start mentioning Arc sliding etc, as that is purely aesthetic, not clever electronics.
[ This Message was edited by: imranbashir on 2008-05-07 00:29 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-07 01:28:21
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On 2008-05-07 01:22:01, imranbashir wrote:
Hardware wise the iPhone was not that advanced, lacking even 3G! The only thing it bought at that was truly new was the software GUI.
That's a great testament to Apple. The iPhone was behind the tech curve but still won out by software design and great marketing.
SE's main selling point of X1 is the premium "user experience." This tells me that SE (like every other manufacturer) learned something from iPhone's GUI design. I hope the X1 GUI is something as well designed as iPhones. Since the iPhone, all smartphones are going to survive or fail on the GUI.
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Posted: 2008-05-07 01:39:06
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On 2008-05-07 01:28:21, imranbashir wrote:
Exactly what do you think that Xperia has that is unique and patented that HTC would want to ‘steal’ but can’t.
I'm sure there are tons of patents up under the hood of the X1 that HTC can't touch.
Besides sex appeal, HTC probably can't duplicate the
COMBINATION of X1's:
A. Price point
B. Performance
C. Size
D. Hardware features
E. Battery life
F. GUI design
G Durability
H. Manufacturing cost feasibility
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Posted: 2008-05-07 01:49:31
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patents arent impostant in asia, they steal and copy everything, that an apart of the traditions there, sadly...
just look at the many chinses copycats, do u think its different in taiwan? dont think so...
so it doesnt matter what se patented, they ll steal and copy it anyway
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Posted: 2008-05-07 02:21:33
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On 2008-05-07 02:21:33, BobaFett wrote:
patents arent impostant in asia, they steal and copy everything, that an apart of the traditions there, sadly...
just look at the many chinses copycats, do u think its different in taiwan? dont think so...
so it doesnt matter what se patented, they ll steal and copy it anyway
That's what lawyers and courts are for
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Posted: 2008-05-07 02:26:50
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