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HxH Posts: > 500


On 2012-05-09 08:00:31, AkuKL wrote:

On 2012-05-09 07:09:09, HxH wrote:

On 2012-05-09 05:14:36, AkuKL wrote:

On 2012-05-05 08:43:24, HxH wrote:
Pretty interesting article from Dev.Blog, get behind the scene with ST-Ericsson U8500

http://developer.sonymobile.c[....]rformance-with-novathor-u8500/


On what process it is made on? If it is still 40/45nm generation, then I don't see how they can be a power efficient processor from other manufacturer that are now starting to use 28/32 generation process.


The way how chipset is manufactured is factor to determined how well power consumption, Yes, it's major one.
But you have considered the way how the company optimized chipset as well, design of platform to reduce power consumption (sustainable way, I mean) too.


PS. I don't understand why people keep stick with early leaked schedule, everything could change everyday goes by internal.


What do you mean by optimized by the company? Since CPU and GPU part is pretty standard anyway. Care to share info. Thank you in advance.
[ This Message was edited by: AkuKL on 2012-05-09 07:07 ]



Well, look carefully at Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset, that's well example
because Qualcomm is using a modified platform of Cortex A9 in their latest chipset Snapdragon S4.

In my case, ST-Ericsson can do the same way but let's alone performance tweak unlike Qualcomm
Instead ST-E use a standard Cortex A9 with a new design that tweaked power efficiency at peak rate.
If they use very standard one, they should release chipset earlier or almost same time
to compete with Samsung last year which is higher-tier at that time not today mid-end chipset.

FYI, U8500 started project in early 2009 if I'm remember correctly.
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Posted: 2012-05-09 13:29:39
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pmugghc Posts: 208


On 2012-05-09 13:29:39, HxH wrote:
Well, look carefully at Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset, that's well example
because Qualcomm is using a modified platform of Cortex A9 in their latest chipset Snapdragon S4.


Actually the Qualcomm Krait is somewhere between an A9 and the A15 in its design, probably closer to the A15 in terms of performance.

Here's a good article explaining the architecture: Anandtech

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Posted: 2012-05-09 13:58:13
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aamwng Posts: 195


On 2012-05-09 13:01:09, smclion102 wrote:
Bye bye Will Miss you


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Which Phone is that ?? Looks like Satio v2 ??


ST26. One good looking mid range phone!


P.s. WHERE ARE THE GX HANDS-ON VIDEOS!!!
[ This Message was edited by: aamwng on 2012-05-09 13:30 ]

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Posted: 2012-05-09 14:16:11
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smclion102 Posts: > 500

How many Phones are they planning to launch?? lots and lots of phone announcement but LATE shipment



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Posted: 2012-05-09 14:33:39
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aamwng Posts: 195

S4 shortage is going delay the GX, bound to be. I predict a global launch in September, lol!
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Posted: 2012-05-09 14:37:59
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smclion102 Posts: > 500


On 2012-05-09 14:16:11, aamwng wrote:

On 2012-05-09 13:01:09, smclion102 wrote:
Bye bye Will Miss you


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Which Phone is that ?? Looks like Satio v2 ??


ST26. One good looking mid range phone!


P.s. WHERE ARE THE GX HANDS-ON VIDEOS!!!
[ This Message was edited by: aamwng on 2012-05-09 13:30 ]



Searched the Whole NET still Not a single official/Hand-on Video/Pictures on GX or SX
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Posted: 2012-05-09 14:39:28
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smclion102 Posts: > 500


On 2012-05-09 14:37:59, aamwng wrote:
S4 shortage is going delay the GX, bound to be. I predict a global launch in September, lol!


This was the Old news right?? i though the production problem is fixed? no more delays? anyways Global GX launch in July?
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Posted: 2012-05-09 14:42:43
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AkuKL Posts: 116


On 2012-05-09 13:29:39, HxH wrote:

On 2012-05-09 08:00:31, AkuKL wrote:
What do you mean by optimized by the company? Since CPU and GPU part is pretty standard anyway. Care to share info. Thank you in advance.



Well, look carefully at Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset, that's well example
because Qualcomm is using a modified platform of Cortex A9 in their latest chipset Snapdragon S4.

In my case, ST-Ericsson can do the same way but let's alone performance tweak unlike Qualcomm
Instead ST-E use a standard Cortex A9 with a new design that tweaked power efficiency at peak rate.
If they use very standard one, they should release chipset earlier or almost same time
to compete with Samsung last year which is higher-tier at that time not today mid-end chipset.

FYI, U8500 started project in early 2009 if I'm remember correctly.


I see. I understand that.

But what I meant is that, what optimization that can be done by ST-E can't be done by Samsung, Qualcomm and the like? Furthermore, company like Qualcomm has way more experience with high performance ARM SoC than ST-E. And to add insult to injury, both Samsung and Qualcomm already has their high end SoC on 32/28nm manufacturing process as appose to ST-E. In this particular case, I don't think any amount of extra effort done by ST-E can match those company in term of performance/energy efficiency. What do you think? Do share your view as I find it very informative. Thank you in advance.

BTW, S4 is more like pseudo-A15 than A9. And the only reason they come up late with even A9-based because they joining the game late with less resources and less experience than the big boys.
[ This Message was edited by: AkuKL on 2012-05-09 14:05 ]

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Posted: 2012-05-09 14:55:07
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AkuKL Posts: 116


On 2012-05-09 14:37:59, aamwng wrote:
S4 shortage is going delay the GX, bound to be. I predict a global launch in September, lol!


I believe it fixed now. At least to some extend.
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Posted: 2012-05-09 15:00:31
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Legen Posts: 469

Wow. More phones already? Looks like Sony are trying to pull a "samsung", that is, flood the market with their phones. It might just work....
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Posted: 2012-05-09 15:05:51
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