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There was a link to youtube about screen comparison between Z1, GS4 and G2. I couldnt find it.
Is it in this thread or Z1 thread?
[ This Message was edited by: milukugiuniu on 2013-09-06 08:33 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-06 09:32:57
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On 2013-09-06 09:32:57, milukugiuniu wrote:
There was a link to youtube about screen comparison between Z1, GS4 and G2. I couldnt find it.
Is it in this thread or Z1 thread?
[ This Message was edited by: milukugiuniu on 2013-09-06 08:33 ]
It is in Z1 forum
Honestly, I believe right now the Z1 is the most perfect deal until the next Z2 in not before June 2014
[ This Message was edited by: maiaramdan on 2013-09-06 08:41 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-06 09:41:19
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On 2013-09-06 07:31:23, motvikt wrote:
It bothers me that Sony always use cheap parts in their flagships and expects no one to notice. Cheaper screen and soc, why can't they just take the absolute best available and make it more expensive. I would gladly pay more if I knew it was the best. The thing is you can't expect to compete with apple or Samsung, they always choose the best parts for their flagships
I dont think you are being fair here. Samsung uses cheap plastic thats not even injection molded (like Nokias) wich gives them better margins. I knew people would overreact about what i wrote but unless you are planning to undervolt or overclock the chip on a custom kernel, you wont notice a difference!
To draw a parallel in laymens terms. Galaxy S4 used APQ8064AB while HTC One used APQ8064, yet in every review the One was considered the smoother and faster phone.
Look at the new Nexus 7, its using the cheapest bin Qualcomm is selling with S600 and its still faster than anything out there right now. Z1 is a great phone man, dont focus blindly on the numbers
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Posted: 2013-09-06 09:51:35
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On 2013-09-06 07:51:25, supercoolman wrote:
On 2013-09-06 07:43:57, puestadelsol wrote:
On 2013-09-06 07:31:23, motvikt wrote:
It bothers me that Sony always use cheap parts in their flagships and expects no one to notice. Cheaper screen and soc, why can't they just take the absolute best available and make it more expensive. I would gladly pay more if I knew it was the best.
I think Sony's phones are expensive enough. In Honami, for it's expected price they could take all the best, including the Xenon flash. It's a pity that for example Oppo managed to get better performance with Sony camera sensors than Sony, and for a more reasonable price.
And the new slogan...
The best of Sony is now even better (than 6 months ago)... That means that what was claimed to be
the best of Sony (just 6 months ago),
admittedly wasn't good enogh.
following your logic. SGS1 wasn't good enough because SGS2 was better, SGS2 wasn't good enough because SGS3 was better...etc?
SGS1 didn't have the attributive "the best of" - which wasn't really true related to the Xperia Z. And the Z1 - according to the described specifications is indeed better (than Z with the best of Sony), but I don't see groundbraking improvements, apart from the theoretically improved camera - which doesn't have OIS, Xenon, and according to the sample shots it doesn't outperform competitions, or even the Xperia Z. Downsized the photos look good, but in full size the noise is ridiculous, reminds me of the nature of noise seen on photos shot with my Sony Ericsson T300 + Mca 25
)
And now, the Xperia Z1 has the best of Sony, which is even better. When Sony will introduce the succesor of the Z1, how would be (ower)graded this adjective? I'm not sure that the Z1 successor will be called Z2. Knowing Sony, Xperia Ω would be imaginable also...
[ This Message was edited by: puestadelsol on 2013-09-06 10:04 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-06 10:59:10
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On 2013-09-06 09:41:19, maiaramdan wrote:
On 2013-09-06 09:32:57, milukugiuniu wrote:
There was a link to youtube about screen comparison between Z1, GS4 and G2. I couldnt find it.
Is it in this thread or Z1 thread?
[ This Message was edited by: milukugiuniu on 2013-09-06 08:33 ]
It is in Z1 forum
Honestly, I believe right now the Z1 is the most perfect deal until the next Z2 in not before June 2014
[ This Message was edited by: maiaramdan on 2013-09-06 08:41 ]
2014 of March there will be a. . . . .
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Posted: 2013-09-06 11:02:24
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On 2013-09-06 09:41:19, maiaramdan wrote:
On 2013-09-06 09:32:57, milukugiuniu wrote:
There was a link to youtube about screen comparison between Z1, GS4 and G2. I couldnt find it.
Is it in this thread or Z1 thread?
[ This Message was edited by: milukugiuniu on 2013-09-06 08:33 ]
It is in Z1 forum
Honestly, I believe right now the Z1 is the most perfect deal until the next Z2 in not before June 2014
[ This Message was edited by: maiaramdan on 2013-09-06 08:41 ]
Thanks.
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Posted: 2013-09-06 11:04:20
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wow @ puestadelsol really needs his eyes checked
and a lot of users here.
oh I forgot, trolls
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Posted: 2013-09-06 11:04:21
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On 2013-09-06 07:54:09, motvikt wrote:
On 2013-09-06 07:33:20, unknownC151A wrote:
On 2013-09-06 07:31:23, motvikt wrote:
It bothers me that Sony always use cheap parts in their flagships and expects no one to notice. Cheaper screen and soc, why can't they just take the absolute best available and make it more expensive. I would gladly pay more if I knew it was the best. The thing is you can't expect to compete with apple or Samsung, they always choose the best parts for their flagships
lol. I like the trollness. What do you mean cheaper SOC? Mind using your tiny brain a little more. And the screen, it's has spot on viewing colours. Don't get blind from your Sammy's fanboism. Annoying basket.
And btw, plastic is cheap.
[ This Message was edited by: unknownC151A on 2013-09-06 06:35 ]
Sigh, I make a valid point and all you can manage is name-calling and troll accusations? I wonder who is the bigger fool here.
There are different s800 socs of different quality, Sony choose the cheap one. Note 3 and Xiomi use the better one.
http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]3-tegra-4-and-msm8974ab-inside
I don't expect the screen to be anything special either
I see what you and Jubei mean, it's much like the S600 situation where Sansung went for the better S600 than others
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This article on the situation and what you guys have said WRT S800 really have put a whole lot into perspective, thanks
http://www.androidbeat.com/20[....]-snapdragon-800-2-2ghz-2-3ghz/
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Posted: 2013-09-06 11:13:03
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@puestadelsol - perhaps it's due to a language barrier, but to say "the best of sony just got better" does not imply that the previous "best of sony" (i.e., the Z) was bad. At the time the Z was released up until the Z1's announcement, the Z _was_ the best of sony. Now, the Z1 is the best of sony and it has improved upon the Z (i.e., it has gotten better).
Your statements are ridiculous and unfounded. By the logic of your statements, Sony or ANYONE else can say that their new phone is better than the previous iteration because doing so would mean that the previous iteration was no good.
to everyone else - please use the Z1 thread for Z1 discussions.
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Posted: 2013-09-06 11:13:23
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On 2013-09-06 11:04:21, alexander87 wrote:
wow @ puestadelsol really needs his eyes checked
and a lot of users here.
oh I forgot, trolls
at 20 mp
http://images.hardwarezone.co[....]es/sony-xperia-z1/dsc-0091.jpg
at 8 mp
http://images.hardwarezone.co[....]es/sony-xperia-z1/dsc-0136.jpg
I think my outdated Xperia ray without the best of Sony, G lens, 20 mp sensor, Bionz could shout comparable photo with this 8 mp one.
And finally the whole gallery
http://www.hardwarezone.com.s[....]oting-new-207mp-sony-xperia-z1
And to be clear, I'm not defending Sony. I always used Ericsson or Sony Ericsson phones, but I cannot stand in the line of blinded Sony fanboys. After Xperia Arc I can't see concrete progress in field of imaging (or just my eyes deteriorates as time passes?), and for that I used for example the K850 or C901 years ago. Sony cannot offer a compact sized phone with fair pricing OIS and Xenon flash. Nokia (which I haven't used ever because it's not SE, I don't like it and now it doesn't uses Android) and other competitors will do.
After the buyout I'm constantly waiting for one device from Sony to convince me, but it haven't happened until now. The Xperia V is quite a balanced phone in size, price, features, etc, but I wouldn't feel that using it instead of Ray would be a remarkable step forward, and it lacks that plus, for which I bought all my previous phones...
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