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jellyellie Posts: > 500

@Joe Freakynuts

it was WICKED!!! had such a great day. i bluejacked this girl in a restaurant and her eyes literally popped out of her head when i sent her the name of the restaurant. she showed the waiter too when i sent 'mmm that looks nice' when her food arrived.
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Posted: 2003-11-09 11:48:14
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floatlite Posts: 486

Scottish daily newpaper printed this article on friday,

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/news/page.cfm?objectid=13598525&method=full&siteid=89488

dave
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Posted: 2003-11-09 13:16:31
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vinnieza Posts: > 500

that's not nice, calling us "pests" .

Edit: on all the news articals i've read about bluejackin' all of them say it's done by sending a contact they haven't mentioned that you could also take a pic of them and send it or sending notes.
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[ This Message was edited by: vinnieza on 2003-11-09 12:25 ]
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Posted: 2003-11-09 13:21:25
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badrat_rachael Posts: 47

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On 2003-11-09 13:21:25, vinnieza wrote:
that's not nice, calling us "pests" .



Not nice no, but sadly I think we may be getting more flack soon.

There is, in the UK, a law called The Protection from Harrassment Act, 1997. Sooner or later some dimbulb is going to jack someone in a really bad way, get caught doing it or it be obvious it was them doing it, and the victim is going to take *real* offense to it. And then we possibly got abit of hassle, not to mention bad publicity.

The abovementioned act covers stalking and so on, and along with the Misuse of Telecommunications Act, 1987, is designed to prevent people from sending malicious electronic communications. SMS, email, phone calls and so on. A person only has to send a text, a mail, or do something else unnerving or unpleasant to someone twice (harrassment being defined under the act as something that causes distress or upset, or that the person doing it should know would cause distress or upset - ie. ignorance is no defence), and they can bee seen as commiting a civil offense and can be prosecuted under those acts. Court injunctions are the usual course of action (an official thing to say "You must not do this again") - and if you break one of those, you are in contempt of court which consitutes as a criminal offence, for which you can get up to five years in the slammer. Sounds extreme I know but that's how the acts work in worst case scenarios.
I expect sooner or later an extreme bluejack case is going to be made an example of under those acts. Afterall, it *is* open to abuse and it is an electronic communication. And those bods who haven't got the sense to turn their bt off have to be protected in some way don't they ? (note the heavy sarcasm).

The way I see it is, I wouldn't bluejack anyone with anything I wouldn't shout at them in the street. I see bluejacking as a technological way of saying "Alright mate ?" or "Nice coat / hat / whatever" as you pass on the street. I wouldn't send anything unpleasant (mainly because I'm not so inclined) but also because - well, I've read the above acts back to front (had to, had someone harrassing me by phone, mail, and in person earlier in the year) and I can see trouble on the horizon for bluejackers. Which is a right pain in the fundament cos I like bluejacking.

Play nice (or only send something that could be construed as "distressing or upsetting" no more than once to the same person) and cover your a~ses, people ! It would be a shame to see this fun thing go bad.

Thus ends the boring but necessary, I feel, warnings from Auntie Rachael
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Posted: 2003-11-09 13:52:00
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jellyellie Posts: > 500

as with all new technology, there are bound to be some irresponsible people that abuse bluejacking. it happened with the internet; it happened with telephones; it happened with WAP, and it happened with SMS. you just have to make sure that you're one of the reponsible bluejackers.
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Posted: 2003-11-09 13:59:51
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vinnieza Posts: > 500

does that mean anyone who has ever bluejacked, has broken the law?

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[ This Message was edited by: vinnieza on 2003-11-09 13:06 ]
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Posted: 2003-11-09 14:05:46
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badrat_rachael Posts: 47

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On 2003-11-09 14:05:46, vinnieza wrote:
does that mean anyone who has ever bluejacked, has broken the law?



It all depends on your interpretation of the law (or more importantly, the acts). Or maybe that should b, more important is the interpretation of the acts by of the person you jacked. In the same way as I don't get upset about people shouting "Nice t~ts !" or "Give us a smile, luv, it may never happen !" at me in the street (although technically at least one of those things could be prosecutable if you really wanted to take it that far), I wouldn't find being bluejacked randomly offensive (I turn my phone to discoverable sometimes in the hope of just that happening, but it hasn't as yet). But if someone were to target me specifically and try to deliberately upset me or freak the hell out of me, then I would feel differently. Just as the same as I would feel if they were giving me funny phonecalls or something similar.

As Ellie says - you just have to be responsible in how you use it. Bluetooth is somewhat different in the fact that you can hit anyone who is bt enabled without knowing anything about them (i.e. you don't need to know their phonenumber like you do with spam or abusive sms or calls, or their email address or their snail mail address) which could make it more open to random abuse. But who really gets their kicks from randomly abusing people ? Not many I'd hope.

The issue I see with it is if someone knows another person, is harrassing the hell out of them anyway, and uses bluejacking as another way to stalk them or give them grief. That sort of thing is what the law is there to try to prevent, not our random messages to those around us. As long as we're not horrible about what we send, I don't see that we should have a problem ourselves. Although it only take one eijit to do something unfriendly, be made an example of, and we get bad publicity.

So it's prolly best to just play nice to cover your a~se. And because its the nice thing to do.
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Posted: 2003-11-09 15:16:56
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djpowelly Posts: > 500

I think he/she is just saying be sensible. Dont start sending messages to one person over and over again and don't send something too rude like 'nice t**s!' Some funny names (like 'Ben Dover') and 'Hi' is what ppl may use? Correct me if i speak c**p!
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Posted: 2003-11-09 17:42:14
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vinnieza Posts: > 500

no i don't really ever say anything offensive, oh well today i had lots of phones to bluejack but i thought i was going to break the law so i only bluejacked 1 , it was a nokia 3610i (i think) and i sent a pidily (boring) your bluetooths on , oh well i herd the nokia tune du du du du duu duu du du du but i couldn't look as i was trying not to laugh that much even though it wasn't that bad . aw well just proves even though BlueJackin's over the news people still have bluetooth on, as i found loads about 10-30
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Posted: 2003-11-09 19:06:21
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jellyellie Posts: > 500

@vinnieza where did you go?
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Posted: 2003-11-09 19:50:13
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