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SloopJohnB Posts: > 500

I´m aware of the real world but that doesnt change the fact that N73´s better. Some people or even the majority of them might not use N73 to its maximum but it still have the better techs so it should be considered the best. People´s personal preferences and/or technological ignorance must not be taken into account here unless if u want this discussion to go on indefinately and without real answer. Some people may prefer using T610 over K750 because of its design but thats another story, its not what is in discussion here. N73 have the better techs so it is the best. Sometimes (most of them) what is best is not what sells the most or become famous, or even used by most people but i say it again, thats another discussion.

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DragonEye,
N73´s screen its better than K800 because it offers more contrast and saturation, and it offers more room for visualization of menu and all kind of files. Thats not a personal opinion, i read it in more than in one objective review about it, N73´s screen it one of its strong points while k800´s screen is an expected upgrade.
K800´s media player might be good but you are stuck with it and it doenst offer as many organizing and searching options when it comes to mp3s like N73. N73 has better connectivity because it has edge and a faster file transfer speed. The phonebook is better because it can store as many numbers per contact as u wish and as many numbers as your memory can hold. In terms of storage N73 is better in the moment because its memory card (up to 2gb while k800 only 1gb). With n73 u have tons of possibilites with 3th party software (emulators, browsers, games, office, etc) while k800 still plays the old java apps my w800 plays. Multitasking in n73 is better because it offers more options and it manages smartapps.
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Posted: 2006-11-05 07:44:51
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QVGA Posts: > 500

Exactly, if N73's media player isnt that good, you can always get a newer one, thats the advantage of having a smartphone.
Contact book is also a good point mentioned above. Voice dialing without having to 'teach' the phone is brilliant beyond brilliant.
Not to mention that Memory Stick Micro 1GB is rediculously expensive compared to MiniSD.
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Posted: 2006-11-05 07:49:26
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sesukaku Posts: 127

hmm.. that is also depend on what you expect. Look, i have both K750 and K800. I found that there are lots of little details that you do not know here that i can consider it as an upgrade. e.g. you dial a number then click more, see what comes up. You will know that in K750 you are not able to send sms, whereas you can in K800. This is also an upgrade, regardless how minor this is. If you press the turn on/off button, it will also gives you option whether you want to change profiles or turn on silent or shut down. This is also interesting. 1000 sms capacity instead of 200. 1000 phonebook although limited to 2500 numbers. video playback now is 320X240 which is really good. I browse youtube then i transfer them to the phone. The keypad is also more comfortable. Media player is also better, since it is walkman media player with a better color scheme. Flight mode. Integrated HTML browser. better way to handle multitasking. Smoother mp3 ringtone. The speaker in K800 can produce a better quality sound than K750 (i dun understand that some ppl complaint about the speaker being not loud enough.. i am more agree if they said that if you connect the phone to a speaker--like 5.1 or so-- K750 produce a better quality of sound than K800. If the sound only comes through the speaker itself, K800 does a better job). One last and most major upgrade is of course the camera and the screen. The screen is truly a big improvement from K750 (i know the camera only slightly better). The screen is really really good. It is very readable under the direct bright sun, compare to K750.

I bet you've known some of these function, but i'm sure there are some which you don't know. After all, i find that K800 is a better phone compare to K750.

Btw, i didn't say you hate K800 before. I just thought that you look rather upset because of sthing i said about N73. And btw, I know that S60 3rd edition has a very cool interface and it also features a massive upgrade from the previous edition.

Have you seen the additional features in K800's view mode for camera and its files? I found that is a truly massive upgrade as well. It also respond like 3-4 times faster than K750. You can display your picture in various ways: timeline view, 3X3, 5X5, thumbnail or list. K750 does not do this. This view mode also applies for applications as well. Have you know the changes they made for PhotoDJ? it is totally different from K750 you know.. It works more like a photoshop, you can change the olor balance and stuff like that.
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Posted: 2006-11-05 08:03:44
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QVGA Posts: > 500

I am not sure if this is true or not, but K800 doesnt support flash themes. Now, W810 does, and W850 do and also W550. Whats flash theme got to do with walkman?
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Posted: 2006-11-05 08:12:59
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sesukaku Posts: 127

hi, sloopjohnB.. i know you like N73, that u already said that it is the best like 2 times in one post (don't you think N93 is better? i think N93 is better or even N95, so N73 really is not the best).. Did i say K800 is better in the first place? i've said that. I also said that it is a fact that N73 is better right? so why you say "it doesnt change the fact that N73 is better"? i know that.. y u repeat? how old are you? It just that, if you look from how normal ppl use the phone, in the end of the day, there is almost no, if not not at all, any difference between K800 and N73!

Many factors let to someone's decision..
Ok.. to prove my point: go to a mobile phone shop.. see what they promote for N73: 3,2 MP camera, MP3 player, video calling, 320X240 2,4" screen, and some other features (in 3 shop, they do not even mention about Symbian S60 lar, 3rd edition lar, whatsoever.. ). K800.. 3,2 MP, Cybershot, screen res, Mp3 player, video calling. Any difference between the two? If the shop promotes this way, does anyone know anything about Symbian? what is symbian?

Lets say that you want to buy a phone. Ok, I got 500 dolars in my pocket, see what i got.. ow.. K800 and N73. K800 is 400 and N73 is 500. Well.. feature wise, if i look from the brochure, they are the same phone.. well.. K800's design might have been a bit dodgy.. but i can save 100.. its ok.. I go for K800 then. Or, other might say.. oh, Sony ericsson might have made a dodgy phones.. i havent heard about them before, since i use nokia, so i go for N73, it must be ok, expensive usually gives a better quality. That is someone who is really brand minded or want to save money.
If someone knows about N73 is a symbian phone and know what they need: hmm.. i want to buy a phone just nice to make a phone call, mp3, sms, camera.. then they go to shop look at the brochure.. oh ok.. Both phones feature everything the same.. and K800 is cheaper. I know that if i buy N73, then i might be able to use application.. but ah.. i dun need weird stuff in my phone. All the features that is already present in the phone is good enough for me. So i think, in this case, i will use K800 more extensively than N73, thus it is allotttt cheaper. I go for K800. (the last one is really in my mind, since i use N70 before).

last point.. the third party software are not free. That is one thing you should mention. Second, not all third party will suit your need. Third, some of them really crap. Fourth, have you know the development of the java technology? I thought oxford dictionary only works for symbian, now it works for java as well. Java also a developing technology, just as symbian.
I thought after i sold my N70 then i would not have dictionary anymore.. then i browse for java software, and i found one ^__^. No need for symbian really.. if you do, get a PDA or laptop.

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Posted: 2006-11-05 08:24:45
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SloopJohnB Posts: > 500

Im 21 years old, thank you very much. I´ll keep repeating until u understand, how old ARE YOU? U r mentioning personal preferences or peoples ignorance AGAIN. That DOESNT qualify or disqualify a phone. Its a different discussion! Lets be objective! Someone may also buy K750, W800, 3250 or whatever based on your parameters. Lets start a new thread: ´Mobiles´ specs in real society life´ or something like this so people can discuss what u are saying.

ps: I didnt say n73 was the best ´of all´ . I said it was the 'best' considering just k800 and N73.
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Posted: 2006-11-05 09:10:04
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sesukaku Posts: 127

again? the only reason why i say again is because i want to make my point clearer (i didn't really use the same point.. instead i was revolving around the same idea). But it seems, you still haven't got the point yet. Nvm.. oh, so you are 21 years old.. i thought 15 or so.. if you say the best.. that means of all. If you say in terms of btw K800 and N73 you should say "BETTER". ^___^.

aniway.. this won't get anywhere. so back to the point. In making comparison which one is better.. the parameter of course must based on specs wise. I agree your point. Thus, N73 clearly a winner here. There is no aspects where K800 will win over N73 (if you look into very deep comparison and complete). What i was talking about just now is that when you go to the mobile phone shop, they only mention the specs that ppl want to hear: thus it will be the general spec only. If you only look at the general aspects only, the two phones are really equal.

If you do not understand my point this time, i really really give up.. what i am talking about is not about ppl's preference really..
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Posted: 2006-11-05 13:26:31
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DragonEye Posts: > 500

you guys keep talking about the possibility of this the possibility of that.. s60 3rd does not have any media player apps out to day that are better then real plater... smartmovie and divx player don't cut it.
my k790a has edge... and 850

in the n73 screen all you're getting is bigger icons that show more grains... not more working realestate.. if you take to wallpapers and compare side to side you'll see the k800i is better

also the n73 jump isn;t that great from the n70 or whateer s60 v2 phone you want to compare to
all you got was
a bigger better screen,
better cam
revised UI

with the k800
you get the same things


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Posted: 2006-11-05 14:57:10
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sesukaku Posts: 127

I agree with the dragoneye. with K800 you get pretty much the same thing. With some minor changes i mention earlier. The rest are the same.
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Posted: 2006-11-05 14:58:55
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jj03 Posts: > 500

Another point in the n73's favour...is the slide show presentation. you can hook it up to the tv, and set your photo's to music, if wanted...the picture's morph into each other after 5 second delay, not just slide over....

By the way, a few post's it is stated that third party software for symbian is "NOT" free.. i think you'll find there's over a hundred app's that are free, including actual language translator's english to french etc etc, along with some excellent games (doom for example).
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Posted: 2006-11-05 15:06:09
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