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True, but my point is unless you hacked the iPhone, buying it without a contract was useless as it was not a sim free device for you to do with as you pleased, yes everyone could buy it for the same price but until you activated it, it was basically an expensive paper weight, o2 sold it to you on the basis you were going to take the contract out, there was no official sim free iPhone, like it appears there will be with the new one.
[ This Message was edited by: mswallis on 2008-06-12 08:43 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-12 09:41:25
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The exception was Belgium which had to sell it sim free, as the law there does not allow sim locking
anyway, this sim free price does seem a bit steep but if it really is going to available sim free, I wonder if more retailers will be able sell it such that we see some pricing competition like we do with other handsets
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Posted: 2008-06-12 09:49:24
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I don't think it's too bad really, from those prices the 16GB version is around £440, which is only (I use the term only loosely there
) £171 more expensive than the 16GB iPod touch, which for the extra features over the iPod touch isn't that bad IMO.
However to use all the functionality in the phone you're going to need a contract sim to put in it with a good data tariff etc, probably making it as expensive if not more than just getting it with an official contract anyway. You could go with your own PAYG provider but imagine the data charges.
[ This Message was edited by: mswallis on 2008-06-12 08:58 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-12 09:57:20
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well, thats still £100 more than the current unsubsidised 16gb iPhone and when you look at other sim free phone in that price bracket the iPhone no longer seems quite so attractive (not that it would neccessarily stop me getting one though!)
fortunately I do have a great non contract bundle with t-mobile, its a sim only deal with web'n'walk pro (2gb fair use/month) for £15/month
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Posted: 2008-06-12 10:06:43
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True, but the old unsubsidised 16gb iPhone is not sim-free unless you hack it, like I said it was sold on the promise you are taking out the contract.
I know you keep saying the old iPhones were unsubsidised, but they didn't sell them unsubsidised for people to unlock them themselves and use another network, although unsubsidised they were still sold for people to use with a contract on the O2 network on an O2 iPhone tariff.
Therefore these actual sim free models need some form of mark-up as there is obviously no money to come in after the device is sold.
[ This Message was edited by: mswallis on 2008-06-12 09:38 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-12 10:24:23
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Hi Masseur,
Having looked into this last time the Office of Fair trading stated that 02 won the right to sell the iPhone exclusively and therefore they could sell it for what they wanted. It was not covered by monopolies or fair trade legislation in any way at all.
Marc
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Posted: 2008-06-12 19:44:11
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I just can figure why they dont just sell it on contract / payg / simfree like all other phones.
They would sell bucket loads simfree, seems very strange to me, and i for one won't be giving my 1st gen iPhone up until i know i can it it working with my current o2 contract.
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Posted: 2008-06-12 20:36:46
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apparently Vodafone here will be offering it on both contract and pre-paid (payg)
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Posted: 2008-06-13 09:35:49
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But not VodafoneNZ who have confirmed that the phone will be on-contract only.
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Posted: 2008-06-14 06:16:38
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What are the chances of iphone 3g supporting SMS delivery reports?
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Posted: 2008-06-14 10:19:56
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