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My god,really?
We had the free medical care during of time socialism.
Now we have to pay for everything.
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Posted: 2004-05-21 19:32:30
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I believe they also have free medical care in Belgium and various other European nations. Which nations have free medical care?
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Posted: 2004-05-21 19:35:25
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I think another reason people aren't happy in the UK is that we look to other countries - like Spain, Greece, and quite possibly Eastern Europe - and think they have a better life there.
And I'm not just talking about wages and cost of living - the UK has seen recently what seems like an anhialation (sorry about spelling!) of family and moral values. It appears that materialism and selfishness rule here, while it looks like actually being nice to other people hasn't gone out of fashion in those countries like it has done here. You can't turn on a TV here without seeing some 'starting over' programme about other people emigrating to other countries as they've had enough of the long hours, binge drinking, 'violence is cool' culture in the UK. Don't get me wrong by the way, I love my country, what it stands for, it's green and pleasant lands, and what's left of the British sense of fair play, I still wouldn't swap being British for any other nationality.
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I often am!), life in countries like those I mentioned above seems much better - there's still a sense of community, your town centres don't become no-go areas on Friday/Saturday night because of twats, and you will help your neighbour out instead of moaning to him about how his fence is a foot too tall. You may not arguably have as much as people in the UK, but I bet you are happier people as a whole because your crime rates are lower and you don't have ridiculous diktats coming out of politically correct local council offices for petty rules and regulations.
Rant over!
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Posted: 2004-05-21 19:45:32
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@Sammy_boy
Here here!
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Posted: 2004-05-21 19:48:05
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@ scotsboy my tongue was firmly in my cheek about Scots not liking the English.
@atlis I was not referring to anyone in particular. I do not have your experience of working abroad, sorry if you were offended.
Generalization will happen on this thread imo, but no one knows all, except goverments maybe!!!!
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[ This Message was edited by: kinc on 2004-05-21 19:32 ]
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Posted: 2004-05-21 20:24:46
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I suspect this argument about where has the best quality of life will run and run, different areas have different advantages.
As I said in my earlier thread, from my limited travelling experience, people appear happier in other countries, leading a simpler but more enriched lives with regards to family, friends and lifestyle, but people in the UK/US etc. have more possessions, the latest gadgets, flashy cars, but are more lonely as they spend most of their time at work, watching TV, getting pissed or just not having the time to speak to family and/or friends.
Edit: Taken out part of post that was badly worded, and offening people
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[ This Message was edited by: Sammy_boy on 2004-05-21 21:48 ]
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Posted: 2004-05-21 21:03:09
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Btw does anyone of you guys from western block - as Sammy said really know where Slovakia, hungary etc is without checkin' it on map? Sammy - I'm not sure if you do, because I'm not sure that 18 - 25 years old ppl drive Ferraris... I'm sick of new bmws, mercedeses, audis on the roads - I mean newest ones. We can buy these cars, but not when 20 - don't think common people in UK can aswell. We don't live on trees and in huts as you think...
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Posted: 2004-05-21 21:47:01
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@Atlis, I think you misunderstood me! I was trying pointing out that perhaps some of us in the west are too materialistic, and the differences between our people, I wasn't trying to say that we were better than you, or that former Eastern bloc countries were backward.
If I inadvertently did, then I am sorry
btw, I drive a 3-year old Vauxhall/Opel Corsa, and am certainly not rich! And unfortunately I am now just too old to fit into the 18-25 category, I'm now 26
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Posted: 2004-05-21 21:55:40
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On 2004-05-21 19:35:25, scotsboyuk wrote:
I believe they also have free medical care in Belgium and various other European nations. Which nations have free medical care?
Well, medical care is not exactly free in Belgium. It is more like a kind of an insurance, and you get only partly refunded from your expenses.
Kind of an insurance because you don't have the choice: part of your income taxes pays the system, proportionaly to your annual income.
The idea behind it is not that it should be totally free, but more that everybody can afford it, even in the case of astronomical amounts and low wages. Big operations will be almost completely refunded, but common pain relief pills you have to pay by yourself entirely.
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Posted: 2004-05-21 22:41:11
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Sorry I think you're a little young especially Atlis thinks the way typical young ppl around their twentieth.It's not so important to drive a car like bmw and so on.They are many more important and worthy things in our life.And remember more money more problems.I have relized it one nice day when
I almost got heart attack.Reason of all my problems was always how to useful invest my money.
Sorry once more pls,I didn't want to offend to anyone.
No young ppl over all the world think have enough money.
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