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well said joe
reminds me of an old bill hicks routine- he asks various religious people to explain why no holy books ever discuss dinasours etc and the best answer they came up with was it was god nice with us.
obviously bill did it in a far funny way than i did.
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Posted: 2005-08-05 17:57:40
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The one and only person to have dino's in his book is dirwin!
Oh just found this...
Allah Almighty did mention dinosaurs in the Noble Quran. While the word "dinosaurs" is a modern word that refers to the gigantic animals that existed perhaps millions of years ago, Allah Almighty referred to all created "beasts" as "dabbah". A "dabbah" in the Noble Quran consists of all animals, including the dinosaurs.
"Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the night and the day; in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the profit of mankind; in the rain which God Sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds, and the clouds which they Trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth;- (Here) indeed are Signs for a people that are wise.
Well that does'nt prove that he said dino's! He said beast, well to me beast and dino are not the same thing. How can one word mean so many or is it just an attempt of an answer?
LOVE THIS BIT "perhaps millions of years ago"
what did the guy mean by perhaps?
Funny just found on the same site which i assume is buy the same guy (www.answering-christianity.com)
"The beast in the Noble Quran does not mean dragon or dinosaur. Let us look at what Allah Almighty said about the beast"
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Posted: 2005-08-05 18:06:14
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On 2005-08-05 17:52:06, joebmc wrote:
Or why it was the end of the world for the dino's? As afaik no holy book has any info on the dinosaurs?
You will get as reply "we don't talk of dinosaurs right now" because they don't have an answer to your question.
Again, I have to really laugh at some links you guys are posting "Origin of water: No theories and no observations."
Right ... when will people learn to read a book with years of study instead of an amateurish website done in one night.
Edit: I also like the "There is no reliable man-made theory" assuming there is no sufficiant proofs but you believe everything from one single book because it is stated like that and should be like that ? Give me a break please
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Posted: 2005-08-05 18:08:50
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I think archaeology and palaentology are a relatively modern science. Why no mentions of dinos? For the simple reason because they didn't know! I don't think any of our modern scientists "predicted" about the dinos without actually digging them up!
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Posted: 2005-08-05 18:16:00
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On 2005-08-05 18:16:00, whizkidd wrote:
I think archaeology and palaentology are a relatively modern science. Why no mentions of dinos? For the simple reason because they didn't know! I don't think any of our modern scientists "predicted" about the dinos without actually digging them up!
But the gods were their from the begining they would of known, so why no mention?
Also another thing that no-one can answer is who made/created these gods, did they just appear from nowhere?
Who made the christian god (the holy father)
Who made the muslim god (allah)
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Posted: 2005-08-05 18:22:08
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Who created the Gods? We did. Man, out of his fear of the unknown created god in whom he could take refuge
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Posted: 2005-08-05 19:06:34
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religion is also a tool of the rich what better way in the old days to keep people in surfdom by saying god has demded your position in society and your reward for leading this life and serving the rich will come after death
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Posted: 2005-08-05 19:36:23
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What a strange phrase "man-made science". All science is man-made!
I believe that it is only a matter of time before extra terrestrial life is discovered.
How would the Holy Books explain that?
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Posted: 2005-08-05 20:06:49
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@goldenface
yes it is a strange phrase i took it from the website that axxxr posted one column had the claims of man made science.
i to wonder when life outside of our own (is discovered or makes contact with us) the religious boffins will explain it away.
no doubt theyll do what usually happens pick a random passage and twist it to fit the arguement and claim it was always fortold
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Posted: 2005-08-05 20:39:04
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On 2005-08-05 14:30:06, axxxr wrote:
Well you can laugh at it.....but i will say just one thing,next time your in london pay a visit to the british library near St.Pancreas station and their you will find stored in the vaults manuscripts written by Islamic scholars which were written many centuries ago..how the Quran gave birth to the idea of Science and Medicine...aswell the basis of modern Mathametics,..Muslims were studying the stars and planets long before galileo..Algebra was invented by Arabs and the inspiration came from the Quran...but don't take my word for it do your own research!
I could equally point out that the ancient Mayans had a calendar almost as accurate as our own or that the Sumerian number system is still used as the basis of time today or that the ancient Egyptians had the for advanced mathematical calculation or that the ancient Greeks developed the world's first computer or that the Romans developed advanced architectural principles or that the ancient Mayans and Egyptians both had advanced astronomical knowledge or any other number of achievements made by our ancestors. But what exactly does all of this prove? Absolutely nothing beyond the fact that mankind has the capacity to learn and discover knowledge of the world around him.
I would like to disagree with you as to Islam 'gave birth' to science, medicine and modern mathematics. 'Science' is a very broad term and modern scientific theory is not attributable to Islam or any other rleigion in exclusion, in fact it owes more to the Enlightenment than it does to religion. The philosophies and science of the ancient Greeks are also very influential in this regard.
Modern Western medicine does owe a great deal to Islamic scholars, but again its basis goes further back to the Romans, especially Roman battle field medicine and once more the ancient Greeks are also influential.
Modern mathematics is perhaps the greatest area for Islamic scholars because they contributed a great deal of knowledge in this field, but again there is no monopoly. Whilst algebra is indeed extremely important the major advances of recent centuries have been predominantly non-Islamic e.g. Calculus.
Whilst Islamic scholars and research have undoubtedly made a great contribution to various scientific fields, your summation of Islamic research is somewhat overblown.
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Posted: 2005-08-05 20:47:48
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