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On 2013-09-19 23:00:17, admad wrote:
So Sony fails again in camera department, even when they have bigger sensor, BIONZ and people from Cyber-Shot working on it. I said it before, was called troll etc. but as usual I was right
Just accept it, Sony Z1 camera is average. And don't start with the software thing, it might just slightly improve quality, not by a margin to drag Z1 cam from average to very good basket.
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2013-09-19 22:00 ]
Software can totally change the quality.
And you bullsh..t here since different sites have different camera experience.
Dig deeper before you post.
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Posted: 2013-09-19 23:26:11
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i have a problem with the camera test on gsmarena.
yes their camera under performs (it's still better than the lg g2 according to their charts).
but it has blurred left side in the photos...
seeing other samples from other sites proves gsmarena wrong, maybe they have a faulty device ?
we will have to wait to some more reviews.
or it could be software, which messes the focus, and as they said, they haven't had a retail unit.
it is also worth mentioning to everyone that the bionz image process is not yet finalized due to some legal issues with google
as i have suspected, the xperia z1 doesn't use AH-IPS (at least the one on GSMARENA DOESN'T), at it has a typical SPVA screen, hence the awesome 1500:1 contrast ratio with the awesome brightness and colors.
it is the best screen out there (unless you use you screen from 178 degree, then the colors wash out
and for all the trolls and haters, the camera even on gsmarena, outperform the S4, it trashes the S4 in terms of speed, it is waterproof, it will last longer than an s4, considering that you actually use your phone to talk, and you leave it in standby, it has a much better screen (colors, brightness) so what the f**k do you want ? go drink your milk, and leave this third already
[ This Message was edited by: sponse on 2013-09-19 22:36 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-19 23:30:11
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On 2013-09-19 23:30:11, sponse wrote:
i have a problem with the camera test on gsmarena.
yes their camera under performs (it's still better than the lg g2 according to their charts).
but it has blurred left side in the photos...
seeing other samples from other sites proves gsmarena wrong, maybe they have a faulty device ?
we will have to wait to some more reviews.
or it could be software, which messes the focus, and as they said, they haven't had a retail unit.
it is also worth mentioning to everyone that the bionz image process is not yet finalized due to some legal issues with google
I've had Xperia T before. I made tons of photos with it.
I remember GSMArena test of this device and remember blurry photos which came out of one of
their charts. However I was never able to reproduce this failure on mine, and software updates vastly improved this
device's camera performance. It doubled the quality.
So something is not right there.
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Posted: 2013-09-19 23:46:03
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On 2013-09-19 23:11:44, king-james wrote:
@Tsepz
forget Z1, it doesn't exist for me. I was never so dissapointed from a Sony device like this.
Display is never so good like from the Ultra, the battery sucks, loudspeaker is very low and sounds bad, cam is nothing special in my eyes, design is never so sexy like ultra or even original Z, its thicker, heavier and looks bulky, its too big for a 5 incher, it should get at least 5,5" display to compete with note 3, again Sony logo is printed on foil, still no gorilla glass, should I say more?
I never understand why Ultra has better battery results than Z1. Same processor, same battery, same display technology?!
But 6,4" vs 5" - Z1 should beat Ultra easy in batterylife but it don't.
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-09-19 22:13 ]
Glad you're enjoying your Ultra
Doesn't make sense at all ,I was expecting at least 65hrs.
Geoffxx
....the Z1 is currently the best Android smartphone available - that fact is undisputed....
I've officially heard it all, good one. The battery life alone kills that off.
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Posted: 2013-09-19 23:52:49
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Calm down people, GSM arena specifically said they had a PRE PRODUCTION model! Combine that with early software and the results are far from what we can expect in a market model. And it will only get better with sf updates...
But if you think this is all there is (and I'm not blaming any of you, things are pretty confusing), just don't buy Z1 and don't spoil this topic for the rest of us.
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Posted: 2013-09-19 23:55:54
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Software can totally change the quality.
And you bullsh..t here since different sites have different camera experience.
Dig deeper before you post.
I was digging, practically all photos from different sites have the blur issue on side of the photo, I was even called a troll here for pointing that out, because that blur was "apparently the result of wrong focus"...
I've had Xperia T before. I made tons of photos with it.
I remember GSMArena test of this device and remember blurry photos which came out of one of
their charts. However I was never able to reproduce this failure on mine, and software updates vastly improved this
device's camera performance. It doubled the quality.
O rly? I have Xperia T and also made a ton of photos, just recently, I'm on newest firmware and quality is pretty much crap. Just like on GSMArena review.
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Posted: 2013-09-20 00:00:45
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Out of curiosity, have Sony announced when the Z1 will eventually get Android4.3 if at all?
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Posted: 2013-09-20 00:11:14
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it is actually normal to have sharp details in the focus area, and the left will blur up..
even with DSLR you will have blur in the non focused area....
what gsmarena have is software fault as i come to think about it now...
and we really don't know which firmware they are using at the moment.
anyway, the camera is still pretty awesome, it has amazing photos, as we over the net, it has great colors, great low light performance, and it will improve over time, ask the xperia z users...
[ This Message was edited by: sponse on 2013-09-19 23:20 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-20 00:19:41
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@ambivalent .. you're talkin to a wall buddy. it's been said pages and pages ago, but they aren't going anywhere.. just waiting for any negative news so they can pounce. what can you do? haters gonna hate..
with the recent pics of Z1 making the Note 3 look like sh!t in a viewing angle test, they needed something else to focus on.. GSMarena review gave them a bite at the camera (despite tons of other sites praising camera quality) and they're running with it.
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Posted: 2013-09-20 00:21:41
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On 2013-09-19 23:52:49, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Glad you're enjoying your Ultra
Doesn't make sense at all ,I was expecting at least 65hrs.
65h or 53h it doesn't matter, the main point is to get good numbers in webbrowsing and videoplayback and this is not happen here...
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-09-19 23:29 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-20 00:26:55
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