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could someone pliz give us an actual date wen the next announcenent might be. saying "soon" doesn't rily help nw does it. even i cn do it - sonyericsson announcement soon. and they gona be showing stuff! - see?
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Posted: 2010-09-16 04:29:56
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On 2010-09-15 17:31:45, makebelieve wrote:
i am already disappointed, that TI uses SGX540 in OMAP4...it will not be comparable to other new GPUs in new SoCs, like orion from samsung... especially if SE wants to sell this device the whole of 2011,it`s realy disappointing

...because GPU is more important than CPU, for final result....
Let's be honest dude... is there's any game that uses the full GPU power of Satio, Vivaz, Galaxy/S ??
if having the best GPU ever will increase the price and reduce the battery life then I don't want it coz I'll never have any thing that will justify the downsides of it !! and when will I use it ? after 4 years ??
I don't say that GPU isn't important... but I prefere a very good GPU that will give me the perfect balance of everything.. but in the same time it isn't outdated and slow...
I think having a powerfull GPU is good... but going for the most powerfull one is just not good... even if

want's to make X12 as the perfect gaming phone... you don't want it to cost you a fortune and to loose the battery life in less time that is required to have a nice playing round !!
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Posted: 2010-09-16 08:23:07
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I still don't see SE announcing the next big thing in November and releasing it in January. The announcement may be on course since they tend to announce something around this time of the year but the launch date of January is questionable IMO.
To put it bluntly, avmaxfan is unreliable and has proven it by claiming HTC were going to announce the HD3 yesterday.
SE don't have the resources to launch a phone as soon as the likes of HTC or Samsung and that is unlikely to change next year, maybe around 2012.
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Posted: 2010-09-16 12:50:57
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Why? VIVAZ is good example it was announced in January and shipped in next 8-10 weeks if

able to follow same route why it won't happen with new supersmart-handset
anyway, I also doubt that if

will make it work
For HTC, I'm bit disappointed with only two things
First, just minor change CPU from 8250 > 8255 same clocking-wise
I have to wait till MWC2011 to see that dual core
and Battery just really small when looking at jumbo screen size of Desire HD
I also thought that because of AMOLED shortfall from Samsung
Duo Desire and Legend will cut off the line and make this new brother play in as replacement
For another thing, I still not believe if

will use AMOLED in their handset if HTC acquire to use of S-LCD in their new handset.
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Posted: 2010-09-16 14:35:28
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I understand that you guys don't want to believe that the X12 with the specs I mentioned will be launched soon, almost everyone all over the internet doesn't seem to believe.
So I guess I shouldn't be coming here or any other forum to share anything, if nobody wants to believe that

is capable of launching a phone that will be as good as any other phone in terms of hardware.
And for those who feel I am here to seek attention or just spread fake rumors, well all I have to say is you are not right. IF I wanted to seek attention I would have gone to every single mobile discussion forum and posted about X11,X12 but I did not. Whereas some members from this site copied my posts word to word and pasted on numerous forums across the Internet. So who is the one wanting to seek attention now?
And as for the HTC HD3 and my credibility going down, I never came here to post anything about the HD3. The only reason I mentioned the HD3 was because I wanted you guys to know that

isn't creating a revolution by using a 1.5 ghz processor and that other brands might infact come out with such processors even earlier than

. And nope I did not have any "insider" info on the HD3 and nor did I ever mention that. I was just trying to find out the list of phones that are supposed to be out with 1.5 ghz processors soon. And HD3 was amongst the top and I read something about it being unveiled on Sep 15 th.
Another thing, AMOLED is not OWNED by SAMSUNG, SAMOLED is Samsung's AMOLED technology, but not AMOLED. HTC using AMOLED screens from Samsung doesn't mean that

has to do it too.
I had mentioned earlier that Sony has used AMOLED screens earlier completely independent of SAMSUNG. And SONY's AMOLED application also had decent sunlight legibility ( if any of you have seen SONY devices with OLED you would know)
Anyways, I won't be posting here anymore. But I maintain that

WILL announce the two phones in November. The X11 will be announced first and then the X12. Same goes for the phones hitting the stores too. First X11 and then X12.
Believe me or not, but

is going to be back with a bang with these two phones
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Posted: 2010-09-16 15:23:27
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I see just doubt about it didn't mean not believe you man clam down!
For AMOLED matter, I also was checked that news CES early this year it just fine.
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2010-09-16 14:29 ]
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Posted: 2010-09-16 15:29:06
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@HxH
The Vivaz was nothing but a downgraded Satio. SE didn't have much to do except put a lower mp camera sensor and change the design, everything else was/is a Satio.
Now, the so called X12 has to have (presumably) Froyo, a new processor as its major assets and we all know how long it takes SE to optimize those two particular aspects of a phone.
@avmaxfan
Again, I expect SE to come out with guns blazing with regard to their next flagship(s), so, I expect nothing less of cutting edge technology since the X10 showed them that people will buy SE's phones as long as they are competitive. What I really question is your 'info' that it will be announced next month and ship in January.
Anyway, I suppose it is pointless arguing over this but best to wait for November and then January to see if your info is indeed credible. Until then I am extremely sceptical.
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Posted: 2010-09-16 15:41:54
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On 2010-09-16 15:23:27, avmaxfan wrote:
I understand that you guys don't want to believe that the X12 with the specs I mentioned will be launched soon, almost everyone all over the internet doesn't seem to believe.
So I guess I shouldn't be coming here or any other forum to share anything, if nobody wants to believe that

is capable of launching a phone that will be as good as any other phone in terms of hardware.
And for those who feel I am here to seek attention or just spread fake rumors, well all I have to say is you are not right. IF I wanted to seek attention I would have gone to every single mobile discussion forum and posted about X11,X12 but I did not. Whereas some members from this site copied my posts word to word and pasted on numerous forums across the Internet. So who is the one wanting to seek attention now?
And as for the HTC HD3 and my credibility going down, I never came here to post anything about the HD3. The only reason I mentioned the HD3 was because I wanted you guys to know that

isn't creating a revolution by using a 1.5 ghz processor and that other brands might infact come out with such processors even earlier than

. And nope I did not have any "insider" info on the HD3 and nor did I ever mention that. I was just trying to find out the list of phones that are supposed to be out with 1.5 ghz processors soon. And HD3 was amongst the top and I read something about it being unveiled on Sep 15 th.
Another thing, AMOLED is not OWNED by SAMSUNG, SAMOLED is Samsung's AMOLED technology, but not AMOLED. HTC using AMOLED screens from Samsung doesn't mean that

has to do it too.
I had mentioned earlier that Sony has used AMOLED screens earlier completely independent of SAMSUNG. And SONY's AMOLED application also had decent sunlight legibility ( if any of you have seen SONY devices with OLED you would know)
Anyways, I won't be posting here anymore. But I maintain that

WILL announce the two phones in November. The X11 will be announced first and then the X12. Same goes for the phones hitting the stores too. First X11 and then X12.
Believe me or not, but

is going to be back with a bang with these two phones
Please don't go. It's been terribly boring here till you came along. hehe. Seriously, I think you are a credible source. In time we'll see though if that's true. Please continue sharing your info here. We're big boys. We've been through worse, especially with

.
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Posted: 2010-09-16 16:19:36
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HEhehehehehehehe
Yea i know this forum was almost dead a few weeks back
But since I don't have anything to share with you as of now ( nothing that I haven't already) so I guess I can start checking out the other threads and start posting
And yea as for the announcement-shipping delay I guess as others have mentioned the example of Vivaz, it is possible for

to manage an early release.
Infact they HAVE TO if they want to continue the momentum generated by X10,X10 mini, Vivaz, hazel and Elm in 2010.
And one more thing, guys please just spend some time to go through the specs of the X12 again and ask yourself if you really think that the specs are UNREAL?????????????? If

came out with anything less than those, it would doom. No doubt about that.
Now what I am interested in is if the X12 will also have an extended family like the X10

(X12 mini, X12 mino pro)
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Posted: 2010-09-16 16:37:30
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Part of the reason why i think you have credible info is because Eldar is kinda hinting on SE having a next gen product.
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Posted: 2010-09-16 16:42:20
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