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@Sirhackalot

I know Plankgatan is a fan of SE.
But in this instance he did not say anything about them being the best. In fact his point inregards to the thread title was only 2 words:



It's quite valid to post SE sales figures in relation to a topic such as this and the sales figures were from only last year and they are SE's best ever results. They speak for themselves and do not require other manufacturers figures because this is not a topic about other manufacturers.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 11:02:53
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@all,

Well I'm shocked a debate about SE and no other manufacturers information is relevant what a refreshing change that makes. Usually SE failings are justified on the basis of others aren't perfect either.

Whilst i agree it is a little premature to say SE is doomed a bit like the thread about UIQ, oh no wait that turned out to be right after all despite what many where happy to claim.

Anyway lets just wait an see what SE's figures over the year show us and even the fist 2Q of next year. But unlike some i really don't see a great new portfolio from SE that's going to help them.

If they are relying on the X1 which will never be a mass market device and the C905 and W980 i think they face a very tough time. IMO they really need to get back to fewer but class leading devices to regain the high ground.

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-08-23 12:06 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-23 13:06:38
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ditto
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Posted: 2008-08-23 13:18:55
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As usual Plankgatan's comment are judged not by what he says here, but by what he says in regard to the K850i camera. If people want to argue HIS point then do so, but argue it on why THOSE statistcis point to SE being doomed.


Are you claiming to have forecast the creation of the Symbian Foundation?

Or did you forecast that UIQ would fail because of users deserting it due to not getting what they want, ala your SE theory. If so then you were wrong about UIQ and I predict that if something happens to SE then you'll claim to be right there also even if the reasons are not something you predicted.


I've already stated that you can't see SE's acheivements and successes, now you admit it too.


Actually it's clear that they need more phones in the low end for success, and if you follow Nokia's smartphone strategy, more devices are needed there too. What I don't understand is why K630 and K660 both exist at the same time, likewise W610 and W660. With the world becoming a smaller place, surely regional variations like K790/K800 and Z770/Z780 are pointless? And the G700 business edition - why not make all G700's a business edition instead of just the Singapore model?
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Posted: 2008-08-23 23:24:30
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Personally I'll stick to SE in whatever circumtences because I think they make good mobile phones. I own a T610 + W910i and my sister's a K510i. We also have a Samsung D500 and a E900 as well but none of them compares to a SE.

Despite the fact that the W910i is buggy, it sports a very good operating system. All SE phones do. SE phones are easy, user-friendly and customisable. Besides they have beautiful designs and not cheap looking like Nokia phones.

Believe me SE is probably the best.
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Posted: 2008-08-25 00:13:47
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Your sister is a K510i? No wonder your loyal to Sony Ericsson
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Posted: 2008-08-25 00:56:26
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Have they proved what you said above? has not moved upward in terms of market share in a long while and if they continue to disregard loyal fans there are indeed doomed
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Posted: 2008-08-25 00:58:01
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It's a business we're talking about here, not a popularity contest. Phones get bought not elected to market leadership. SE doesn't need to prove or disprove anything, all they need to do is make phones and do so profitably in the fastest changing, most volitile industry in the world - that's not easy as we can see.
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Posted: 2008-08-25 01:27:10
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let say SE need to make sure their ARPU is growing again or even if it drop, it really come with the fact they are selling a lot more low end phone....not the drop of ARPU didn't really tele with their figure on low end phone shipment which seem to tell us they try to sell their mid to high end stuff cheap.

I saw one SE shop near my house selling G900 at RM1699 which is USD around 550!! tht is same as P1i. Many new phone is not selling premium price because it lack of the features some people @ malaysia don't use but found nokia having (Mobile TV? who use it? HSDPA penetration not that high here etc etc...some idiot don't even know how to make full use of smartphone features)

This is bad and they need to find a way to improve it...particularly bring in something the mass and tech savvy dude hope for...better camera/ more wifi enabled mid range to high end phone/ bigger sceeen/ better video capturing.

you don't need a lot just a few key item and then make the fans feel happy with.... yup some N series killer haha...but it seem like a big demand with such economy situation.
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Posted: 2008-08-25 03:11:22
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Is Sony Ericsson doomed? Yes, we all are, brace yourselves for armageddon is amongst us :-|
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Posted: 2008-08-25 04:06:32
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