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@jake
I still did not try to take a shot of a moving object at night or in low-light environment. What I observed with DM 3.8 is when taking night shots then adjusting shutter speed to +2.0EV, it brightens the scene like in adjusting the exposure. I am not good with technical terms in photography since I am not a photographer, I only try and test shots for the right settings of the camera. And I am still familiarizing with this new driver that is why I could not advise you what is the right settings in a certain scenario. I am only depending on my test shots.
As I've understand, when setting the shutter speed to +2.0, more light reaches the sensor since there is a longer time of exposing light to the sensor making the image brighter.
For photographers out there, can you help us with the terms in photography, maybe that will enlighten us somehow on what are the right settings to be used in taking shots...
@Vit
Can you also post pictures taken indoors with low light?
Thanks...
[ This Message was edited by: penguin_xp on 2009-11-08 18:20 ]
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Posted: 2009-11-08 19:17:59
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On 2009-11-08 19:17:41, WindowsSeven wrote:
is there video driver with bigger resolution on video clip for the telephone , thanks
Try Eltoffer camdriver with night setting video.
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Posted: 2009-11-08 19:33:11
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On 2009-11-08 19:17:59, penguin_xp wrote:
@jake
I still did not try to take a shot of a moving object at night or in low-light environment. What I observed with DM 3.8 is when taking night shots then adjusting shutter speed to +2.0EV, it brightens the scene like in adjusting the exposure. I am not good with technical terms in photography since I am not a photographer, I only try and test shots for the right settings of the camera. And I am still familiarizing with this new driver that is why I could not advise you what is the right settings in a certain scenario. I am only depending on my test shots.
As I've understand, when setting the shutter speed to +2.0, more light reaches the sensor since there is a longer time of exposing light to the sensor making the image brighter.
For photographers out there, can you help us with the terms in photography, maybe that will enlighten us somehow on what are the right settings to be used in taking shots...
@Vit
Can you also post pictures taken indoors with low light?
Thanks...
[ This Message was edited by: penguin_xp on 2009-11-08 18:20 ]
I'm not a pro shooter, but, as I've written, even with DM 3.5, which sets ISO 100 for Twilight Landscape mode, what happens when we change EV values (on that particular mode) is increase/decreasing the exposure or, in other words, decrease the shutter speed. Take a look @ one of my last comments on the subject. Normally, when shooting in AUTO mode, changing EV values changes automatically both ISO and shutter speed. If you set ISO to a fixed value, there's only shutter speeds left to be changed.
As for the the brigthness of those pics, differences in contrast and brightness may be confused with differences in exposure times. That's why I asked for EXIF info on those shots. I guess those might be the differences between them, besides the most noticeable color saturation on the second one.
It also feels that Jake has confused the shots from his two posts. Look at the most saturated pictures of the two pairs of pics he's posted. In the first comparison, the most saturated one is labeled as DM 3.5, and in the second comparison is the contrary.
I will take some night indoor shots today with my mixed drivers, which have Twilight Landscapes modes based upon DM 3.5, and post them later here. I will take them with 3 different EV values, -2.0, 0.0 and +2.0.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-08 19:41 ]
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Posted: 2009-11-08 20:26:03
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Thanks for all the info guys...
very much appreciated
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Posted: 2009-11-08 21:01:08
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On 2009-11-08 20:26:03, Vit wrote:
I'm not a pro shooter, but, as I've written, even with DM 3.5, which sets ISO 100 for Twilight Landscape mode, what happens when we change EV values (on that particular mode) is increase/decreasing the exposure or, in other words, decrease the shutter speed. Take a look @ one of my last comments on the subject. Normally, when shooting in AUTO mode, changing EV values changes automatically both ISO and shutter speed. If you set ISO to a fixed value, there's only shutter speeds left to be changed.
As for the the brigthness of those pics, differences in contrast and brightness may be confused with differences in exposure times. That's why I asked for EXIF info on those shots. I guess those might be the differences between them, besides the most noticeable color saturation on the second one.
It also feels that Jake has confused the shots from his two posts. Look at the most saturated pictures of the two pairs of pics he's posted. In the first comparison, the most saturated one is labeled as DM 3.5, and in the second comparison is the contrary.
I will take some night indoor shots today with my mixed drivers, which have Twilight Landscapes modes based upon DM 3.5, and post them later here. I will take them with 3 different EV values, -2.0, 0.0 and +2.0.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-08 19:41 ]
@Vit
Hi,
thanks for all of the tips so far.
I did not confuse the 2 sets of comparison shots. You'll notice that the first set of shots were taken on all AUTO settings, and the next set were taken with twilight portrait mode.
I am not sure how DM tweaked the settings here, but this is the way the saturation came out on those shots for me.
Also, I am not taking a lot of shots and sorting through them to pick out the best quality ones which i know some people do here.. I am merely posting some comparison shots to help determine which driver is better/worse.
You are posting some very nice shots with your mixed mode driver, and I am VERY interested in this, but it would be more helpful if you explained what settings you used, and how to operate this "mixed mode" driver to achieve the quality in the shots you have posted here.
I have also updated my comparison shots with the detailed info.
i am looking forward to more shots from you
thanks!
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2009-11-08 20:21 ]
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Posted: 2009-11-08 21:09:29
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On 2009-11-04 22:45:13, mikely_28 wrote:
OK! I've got it! Works excellent!
Night shots are brilliant with shutter speed! I'm at work right now, but tomorrow I'll put some pictures.
Ah, shutter speed works with night landscape.
DM, this is just brilliant what U did! Man it's awsome!!! We have all options back and more! Great, graet, great!!!
Hi mikely,
Can you post some of your DM3.8 night shots that have come out brilliant as you say?
I am very curious to see them!! and what settings did you use for them?
thanks
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Posted: 2009-11-09 01:33:13
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I am still trying to figure out how the settings work with DM 3.5 even.. I am not so sure I even need a better driver.
I just took this shot.. the settings were
Twilight portrait
AUTO Everything Else
EV +1.3
No Flash
The pic details after show
ISO 500, and it was it a very dimly lit room.
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2009-11-09 03:06 ]
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Posted: 2009-11-09 03:21:38
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On 2009-11-08 20:26:03, Vit wrote:
On 2009-11-08 19:17:59, penguin_xp wrote:
@jake
I still did not try to take a shot of a moving object at night or in low-light environment. What I observed with DM 3.8 is when taking night shots then adjusting shutter speed to +2.0EV, it brightens the scene like in adjusting the exposure. I am not good with technical terms in photography since I am not a photographer, I only try and test shots for the right settings of the camera. And I am still familiarizing with this new driver that is why I could not advise you what is the right settings in a certain scenario. I am only depending on my test shots.
As I've understand, when setting the shutter speed to +2.0, more light reaches the sensor since there is a longer time of exposing light to the sensor making the image brighter.
For photographers out there, can you help us with the terms in photography, maybe that will enlighten us somehow on what are the right settings to be used in taking shots...
@Vit
Can you also post pictures taken indoors with low light?
Thanks...
I'm not a pro shooter, but, as I've written, even with DM 3.5, which sets ISO 100 for Twilight Landscape mode, what happens when we change EV values (on that particular mode) is increase/decreasing the exposure or, in other words, decrease the shutter speed. Take a look @ one of my last comments on the subject. Normally, when shooting in AUTO mode, changing EV values changes automatically both ISO and shutter speed. If you set ISO to a fixed value, there's only shutter speeds left to be changed.
As for the the brigthness of those pics, differences in contrast and brightness may be confused with differences in exposure times. That's why I asked for EXIF info on those shots. I guess those might be the differences between them, besides the most noticeable color saturation on the second one.
It also feels that Jake has confused the shots from his two posts. Look at the most saturated pictures of the two pairs of pics he's posted. In the first comparison, the most saturated one is labeled as DM 3.5, and in the second comparison is the contrary.
I will take some night indoor shots today with my mixed drivers, which have Twilight Landscapes modes based upon DM 3.5, and post them later here. I will take them with 3 different EV values, -2.0, 0.0 and +2.0.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-08 19:41 ]
Thank you for the explanation Vit. I also noticed that when taking shots. Changing the EV settings also automatically adjusts the shutter speed and ISO settings. I guess, this is because the phone compensates with the changes made in the EV. This is also the reason I am still taking test shots with DM 3.8 since I am curious regarding the results that will come out when changing manual shutter speed and the ISO. Based on the 2 night shots I've previously posted with DM 3.8, adjusting the manual shutter speed to +2.0 results to 1/4s exposure time setting the ISO to 200 and 2.0EV. I observed that whatever value I set with the manual shutter speed, the same value goes with the EV settings.
I am now using the first driver edited by Vit, I will try to test and post some pictures.
[ This Message was edited by: penguin_xp on 2009-11-09 07:34 ]
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Posted: 2009-11-09 08:28:35
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On 2009-11-08 20:26:03, Vit wrote:
I'm not a pro shooter, but, as I've written, even with DM 3.5, which sets ISO 100 for Twilight Landscape mode, what happens when we change EV values (on that particular mode) is increase/decreasing the exposure or, in other words, decrease the shutter speed. Take a look @ one of my last comments on the subject. Normally, when shooting in AUTO mode, changing EV values changes automatically both ISO and shutter speed. If you set ISO to a fixed value, there's only shutter speeds left to be changed.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-08 19:41 ]
Hi Vit, sorry for my ignorance, but I am not too experienced in photography.
My question about your comment above here is that if we already have a manual ISO menu in DM 3.5, and changing the EV value effectively is changing the shutter speed, then why do we really need a manual shutter speed option?
sorry if this is a stupid question, i am just a little confused here
on another note... Does anyone know if there is any way to get rid of the annoying beep that sounds when auto focusing?
thanks
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2009-11-09 16:43 ]
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Posted: 2009-11-09 16:47:39
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@jake
I guess having manual settings in a camera gives the user more control of it in taking shots base on what he/she wants the output of the image would be. Setting the ISO and the manual shutter speed on whatever settings you want makes it a fixed value. Even though you adjust the EV settings, it will not affect the ISO and the shutter speed since it was already set to a fixed value. I believe this is what Vit is trying to say in his statement.
In the case of DM3.8, manual shutter speed and EV value can be set using the right D-pad. This means that you cannot set the 2 settings at the same time. When Shutter Speed is selected in the menu settings, adjusting the right key of the D-pad will adjust the shutter speed not the EV value. In order to adjust the EV value, you need to select the Auto or the Color Correction settings in the menu. The same goes with the Focus. In order to change the manual focus, you need to select it in the menu. Then adjusting the right key of the D-pad will adjust the manual focus not the EV value nor the shutter speed.
I hope I was able to help you understand. Please also correct me if I am wrong...
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Posted: 2009-11-09 18:46:38
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