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jmcomms Posts: > 500

I am sure we will see a return to handsets that aren't specifically crippled to fit them into specfic categories. By all means do that on low-mid range, but once you get up to flagship models (and by the sounds of it, everyone on here is ONLY interested in these and almost wants to kill SE employees for even DARING to produce kit for other people) then you make them feature packed.

If this happens, SE will get back on track. There's NO excuse to make something inferior for the sake of it (and when it's software and something like BestPic/PhotoFix/TrackID/album art or whatever is removed, it's stupid and petty).
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Posted: 2008-01-09 02:28:22
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makbil Posts: > 500

@sealover94, this last design looks like a true P series device
Could you add 2 LEDs for bluetooth and WLAN?
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Posted: 2008-01-09 11:18:17
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Aware Posts: > 500

makbil,

And a general P-series question for you all to consider:

Bear in mind that for years, P-series went head to head with Nokias 9xxx-series Communicators. Both these products, for their respective manufacturers, were/are(E90) low volume, low sales, tech/business flagships. The fans of these products aren't like normal phone 'consumers', they don't seem to care about the same aspects(looks, for example) as 'joe public' would...they just want them to be technologically capable business machines(as they've always done 'more' than the rest of the manufacturers' ranges at the respective times).
Of course, since the P990 nightmare that was, SE have decided that they no longer seem to care about this particular segment, and have created UIQ devices to fit other segments instead(P1 = E61i; W960 sits between N81/N82, going by specs)...in fact, even the proposed P5(going by the existing mock-ups) is being built to go up against N95, rather than Nokia's flagship business device, E90......

So what happened?? And why in their 'infinite wisdom'(lol), have SE decied that they no longer need a flagship UIQ device to go against Nokia's flagship Communicator??

Oh, one last thing: E90 is such an amazing improvement over 9500, it's the most-realised version of that form to date. Now imagine a device that would be an equivalent improvement over P990, in it's form......

...yes I'd kill for one, too...it would be an awesome realisation(assuming it worked properly)......


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Posted: 2008-01-09 12:54:21
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doministry Posts: > 500

The last Sealover's concept would be nice (I mean, under this flip is qwerty as I think).
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Posted: 2008-01-09 14:25:14
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jmcomms Posts: > 500

SE basically lost the business market with the P990, so they've started (as said above) to re-categorise the devices as 'prosumer' models. It's going to take a long time before any company will buy nnn UIQ models for their staff.

I wouldn't. I am geeky enough to be able to get on with the P1i or the W960i and put up with the quirks and slowdowns, but most people wouldn't be. The fact they're hard to use as ordinary phones is obviously another big problem!

Nokia has therefore grabbed the whole market for Symbian based devices, and HTC for Windows Mobile.
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Posted: 2008-01-10 00:17:41
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makbil Posts: > 500

@Aware, I agree with your assessment but hope that you are wrong.
Big companies have at least one product that they build for prestige rather than profit. The "P" series was SE's prestige line - until recently.
Now, is SE just going to forget their prestige line and accept in front of the whole world that they are incapable of producing such a device or are they going to come up with a much better "P" series successor and prove that they still have what it takes...
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Posted: 2008-01-10 00:30:47
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makbil Posts: > 500

@jmcomms, the P990 is the easiest Symbian phone to use as a "phone" precisely because of the flip.
I also believe that Symbian is much better suited for mobile devices despite having some quirks which will possibly be fixed in Symbian 9.5.
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Posted: 2008-01-10 00:39:40
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drgopoos Posts: 307

Even now if they release P990i with 128mb of RAM, i would jump at it...
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Posted: 2008-01-10 01:01:18
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bider Posts: 269

This is my vision of P5i





[ This Message was edited by: bider on 2008-01-10 08:17 ]

[ This Message was edited by: bider on 2008-01-10 08:18 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-10 02:47:19
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MYB87 Posts: 162


On 2008-01-10 01:01:18, drgopoos wrote:
Even now if they release P990i with 128mb of RAM, i would jump at it...


they did release a p990 with 128mb ram O.o ... P1i ? clearly its not enough
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Posted: 2008-01-10 03:26:06
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