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On 2008-01-10 03:26:06, MYB87 wrote:
On 2008-01-10 01:01:18, drgopoos wrote:
Even now if they release P990i with 128mb of RAM, i would jump at it...
they did release a p990 with 128mb ram O.o ... P1i ? clearly its not enough
i was considering the flip factor
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Posted: 2008-01-10 04:55:54
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The P1 has a lot of crucial features missing therefore can't be considered as a P990 with additional RAM. A P990 with 128 MB RAM and a new improved fw would definitely put it in the front lines.
I have the feeling that the P1 was originally designed as an upgraded M600 but with the P990 disaster SE tried to save face by shifting it to cover for the P990.
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Posted: 2008-01-10 11:47:45
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new symbians will arrive soon...approx 5 weeks to presentation
Josephine and Beibei:
One with 5mp and the other 3.2mp
One of them is very small
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Posted: 2008-01-10 13:01:37
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http://www.zhuqiao.hk/news.ph[....]4f73a3a258a62189d992dc445b83f9
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Posted: 2008-01-10 13:16:17
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The picture in that link is NOT the next P series.
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Posted: 2008-01-10 13:18:32
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i knew...just that it looked nice...I knew it will be a slider somehow
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Posted: 2008-01-10 13:23:22
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@ Aware - you're right up to a point, but when you start gushing on about the E90 you miss an important point - the E90 is not a direct replacement for the 9500, and for many of the old Communicator fans it's actually a dissapointing upgrade - just as the P1 was for some of the Pxxx's fanbase.
When they developed the E90, Nokia took a decision to abandon the old Communicator OS - Series 80, which began life on the old Psion PDAs and was designed from the ground up for keyboard-driven business devices, and swap it for the more popular but less capable S60. To gadget hounds and the general public, that made no real difference; but to the kind of people that loved and relied their old Communicators it was a massive sea-change that many have not forgiven Nokia for. The E90 may well end up far more successful than any previous "minority interest" product like the 9500, but like the P1 it does not satisfy all of the minority that had been faithful to the line up until then.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-01-10 13:13 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-10 14:06:44
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@Tigershark42
Sorry but Wayfinder is possibly one of the worst Sat Nav options out there as not only does it require a subscription but also uses data to collect maps and routing from it's servers, there really are far better Sat Nav solution's than it.
@Boinng
I agree many of the old and faithful commie users are up in arms that the E90 uses S60 and the changes it has brought. But there are a whole new generation of E series S60 users that love it, me included. But it is the Flagship Nokia Buisness devcie and is truly an awesome bit of kit, no other business smart phone i can think of can so easily work as a phone whilst closed yet has such a huge good internal screen for Web Browsing or working on E-Mails or Documents. Despite what many like to claim it is not to heavy or that big it is no larger than N95 with the slider out.
@all
I like many really do hope SE has not abandoned the true ethos of the ultimate business devcie the P series was and watered it down to be more Multimedia focused as that IMO would really be a shame. But as John Morris has said it is going to take something very special for SE to win back the corporate customers who left after the P990 saga. SE really have no choice if they want to be a player in business smartphones they really have to deliver.
My fear is as the Multimedia smart phone market is where the real growth in Data and Smart Phone users lays this is where SE are going to target thier new devcies as obviously this has the most potential for sales and this may disappoint the SE Buisness user in the same way the E90 has the old NOKIA commie users. Only time will tell but if the rumours that Beta testing will start this month hopefully we will all know one way or the other soon enough.
Marc
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Posted: 2008-01-10 14:58:34
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Marc, I don't mean to seem critical of the E90, I'm sure it's a great phone - it's just different to the old Communicators in some crucial ways, and I think it's a good example of a product being less about what the existing "fans" want of the next device, and more of about what the current (or future) market wants. In that sense, Nokia's approach to designing the E90 is actually no different to SE's approach to the P1, and any future P device.
In both cases there were a minority of dedicated users who held certain aspects of their devices sacrosanct - Series 80 and the flip design respectively - and in both cases they were dissapointed. Both the E90 and P1 can still be regarded as successful products, regardless.
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Posted: 2008-01-10 15:37:43
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On 2008-01-10 13:18:32, PeterKay wrote:
The picture in that link is NOT the next P series.
How do you know PK..... They might have changed the design,and so might be completely different from the former prototype
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Posted: 2008-01-10 16:17:43
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