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rss_ndrsn Posts: > 500

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On 2010-09-25 00:01:59, domipost wrote:

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Posted: 2010-09-25 19:57:04
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rss_ndrsn Posts: > 500


On 2010-09-25 00:01:59, domipost wrote:

On 2010-09-24 23:23:52, rss_ndrsn wrote:
^That's because non of those SE phones you mentioned have reached the million mark in sales. SE actually have announced before the total number of sales of walkman series since the W800i. I think that's the last time they informed the media of their certain phones sales.


Do the maths dude....

From the last Q2 results:

Number of units shipped (million): 11.0

An average store has around 10 - 15 SE model in it's catalog at any moment. 11/15=0.73 and that's only 3 months. So there are certainly SE phones that sell more than a million times, and I'm pretty shure W995 is one of em. Of course the low end phones drive up the sales volumes, but there are certainly high-end models that sell more than a million times. And that's true for every single major manufacturer.



I'm sorry but you confused the total number of units shipped to the number of phones sold. These two are different things my friend. The total number of units shipped means the number of phones that a manufacturer has made and distributed to the retailers whereas the number of phones sold pertains to the how many of these phones have actually been bought end users like us. For example, SE has shipped 1 million X10 but it does not necessarily mean that they have sold 1 miliion phones. If we use your understanding with this matter, there would be shortage of X10.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2010-09-25 19:19 ]

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Posted: 2010-09-25 20:13:02
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domipost Posts: > 500


On 2010-09-25 20:13:02, rss_ndrsn wrote:

On 2010-09-25 00:01:59, domipost wrote:

On 2010-09-24 23:23:52, rss_ndrsn wrote:
^That's because non of those SE phones you mentioned have reached the million mark in sales. SE actually have announced before the total number of sales of walkman series since the W800i. I think that's the last time they informed the media of their certain phones sales.


Do the maths dude....

From the last Q2 results:

Number of units shipped (million): 11.0

An average store has around 10 - 15 SE model in it's catalog at any moment. 11/15=0.73 and that's only 3 months. So there are certainly SE phones that sell more than a million times, and I'm pretty shure W995 is one of em. Of course the low end phones drive up the sales volumes, but there are certainly high-end models that sell more than a million times. And that's true for every single major manufacturer.



I'm sorry but you confused the total number of units shipped to the number of phones sold. These two are different things my friend. The total number of units shipped means the number of phones that a manufacturer has made and distributed to the retailers whereas the number of phones sold pertains to the how many of these phones have actually been bought end users like us. For example, SE has shipped 1 million X10 but it does not necessarily mean that they have sold 1 miliion phones. If we use your understanding with this matter, there would be shortage of X10.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2010-09-25 19:19 ]



Doesn't really matter for the numbers of million phones sold, the sales with your definition are only postponed a bit. If retailers have too much stock, they will buy less new phones, so the results in the next quarter will be lower. Does that matter for how many millions of for instance X10's are sold? Yes, in short term it does, but after all it won't cause if SE ships 1 million X10's, then eventually (might be after price cut's, sale or whatever) 1 million X10's will be sold.
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Posted: 2010-09-25 22:26:00
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rss_ndrsn Posts: > 500

^The number of shipped phones is not the one being asked by the other poster here but the number of units sold (bought by the consumers). Your reply is totally irrelevant to what is being inquired.
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Posted: 2010-09-26 00:25:39
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se_dude Posts: > 500

Dont be stupid. The fact that consumers wanted a shpment of 1 million phones pretty much serves the case for SE. You have send them back, as such, its pretty much sold. And btw, all manufacturers can only provide a view on the number of phones shipped. Its impossible to go around shops trying to make out the number of units they have shipped over time.
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Posted: 2010-09-26 04:28:28
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FMW300 Posts: 279

I understand the difference that u all are talking about, but yes, I think it's the units shipped that are tracked. And I'm sure SE can only ship how much retailers request, not so? So, I'm certain there are models that definitely shipped in the millions.
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Posted: 2010-09-26 05:09:50
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domipost Posts: > 500


On 2010-09-26 00:25:39, rss_ndrsn wrote:
^The number of shipped phones is not the one being asked by the other poster here but the number of units sold (bought by the consumers). Your reply is totally irrelevant to what is being inquired.


Geeez dude, why don't you just go away from this forum if the only thing you can do is be negative and troll...
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Posted: 2010-09-26 12:17:33
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Dups! Posts: > 500

Japan, England, Sweden, Germany, Netherlands, etc, have the X10 on sale. Japan alone sold the phone out in 21 days which was a hundred thousand units, how many units do you think were sold in the other countries? I am pretty sure that all the countries SE does business in have sold the phone in good numbers. I think the phone has gone beyond the million mark a while back.

I'm also certain that SE has more than 20 countries (and that is being extremely conservative) it conducts business in, so, even if they ship 50 000 X10s per country (again consertive to the extreme) they would still reach the million mark or more. That goes for most of their phones.

As doministry demonstrated, being able to ship 11 million phones in 3 months suggests there must be 2 or 3 phones that sell over a million while the others just add the numbers within the portfolio.
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Posted: 2010-09-26 17:30:29
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echo.shane Posts: 304

cant hold on any long after living with sony ericsson 7 years there pushing me over the edge.......im still looking for an upgrade to my p1i and cant wait no longer.......

so i want a full touch and qwerty hardware

i would go for x2 but its too slow so im considering the black berry touch
i would also go for the x10 but it has no qwerty hardware board and the mini is too small - both may never get ginger bread upgrade so im going to htc


i have in mind to get the desire z or i think i might get me a desire z.. until sony ericsson make and upgrade to my p1i or something close to my p1i......i just want a big screen with a hardware qwerty board.


SONY ERICSSON WHY CANT THEY HEAR MY CRY

does anyone else feel the way i do?
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Posted: 2010-09-26 17:37:19
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HxH Posts: > 500

I don't know other but my country not really so good
due official unit it cost about 610€ when converted, which is costly and not supported local language.
and other major criticizing about oldies 1.6 OS while competitors live on 2.1
and multi-touch thing also drag into for negative convincing to buy others.
Only thing X10 survive from criticizing here is Elegance of Design.
but now I think Iphone 4 steal the show now it risin' every corner!

Yeah! Shane
can't hear me cry too. that's pretty horrible about SATIO lacks of supported after sale!
I don't know if I will buy handset again or not, nowadays is tough competitive
I would preferred superior design which can delivered that but failed about supported
(SATIO AINO VIVAZ 2 firmwares update of each it really disappointed policy for me )
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