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floatlite Posts: 486

I am indeed, C4 VTS, it's a pain in the ass, but ahh well, back to trusty P910
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Posted: 2005-08-30 14:51:52
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

so who's to blame?

SE, because they bring out phones with the latest technology?

Or the car manufacturer who can't or won't update the bluetooth in a car worth tens of thousands of dollars, making those cars obsolete (in respect of phone integration) and therefore also need to be replaced at the same rate at which one replaces their mobile phone, just to have the latest in mobile phone technology? Or the alternative to keep your nice car for more than two years, and miss out on a great phone?

Man, what a joke. This is NOT a problem with SE phones....
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Posted: 2005-08-30 15:20:22
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floatlite Posts: 486

It is a problem in so far that SE are WRONGLY claiming that the product has backwards compatibility with BT 1.1/1.2 devices, including their own headsets and car kits.

It turns out that this is not the case, and the implimented BT tech in the K750 and associated products does not work with these devices in a usable manner.

David
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Posted: 2005-08-30 15:45:56
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

Okay I agree it's wrong of SE to claim something that isn't true, but this may not have been intentionally misleading. The EDR issue may have been completely unexpected.

But why shouldn't an $80000 car have upgradeable Bluetooth? It would seem the better way forward for everyone concerned.

At what point does a manufacturer stop being responsible for compatibility of their devices with every other possible device on the market? Ultimately if it is an issue with bluetooth 2.0, the standard of which is designed by a multi-partite industry body, how is SE to blame?



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Posted: 2005-08-30 16:14:27
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happycheesecake Posts: 344

@Floatlite - try turning on the BT "Power Save" option of your phone before enabling BT and connecting to your car.

It might work. Its meant to disable the phone from linking to multiple devices, and to stop it poling for EDR...
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Posted: 2005-08-30 16:33:33
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floatlite Posts: 486

I have just recieved an update for my car, which has addressed some issues with BT, I have also gained a few new features, I can search the entire phone book from my steering wheel, as well as read txt messages on the main HUD of the car. I now get all my voice mail, txt, and some MMS on the car. Full voice dialing is now active as well, and works amazingly well.

I can verbally speak a number and it picks it up and dials it, if it's not in the phone book.

I am going to try the powersave option and see if we get a positive result, good idea. cheers fella!


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Posted: 2005-08-30 19:53:25
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happycheesecake Posts: 344

I can confirm that the three new phones I'm testing (as part of my job) ALSO have the disconnection issue with the headsets I'm testing against. One is the W550i.

I can also confirm that this ONLY AFFECTS THE BT HEADSET & HANDSFREE PROFILES. I've had a bluetooth link between a K750i and a PDA active for over 72 hours with no disconnection.

have confirmed (well, two of their firmware developers have) that there is "an issue" with the headset & handsfree profiles.

[ This Message was edited by: happycheesecake on 2005-08-31 15:40 ]
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Posted: 2005-08-30 20:37:14
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floatlite Posts: 486

I too have this responce form SE, quote, "we are looking at some discrepincies with compatibility issues"

Seems like they have either not applied some protocols in the way most devices need to operate in a usable manner.

Ah well, I remain hopeful it gets sorted, I have aquired some sat nav to test on my phone (P910) so that'll keep me occupied until SE correct (hopefully!) the issue.

Funnily the P910 with BT 1.2 can maintain a link with my BT GPS reciever and the BT car at the same time, and it works perfectly, it even auto changes between the call and the nav when needed.

The issues of modern tech eh!

which reminds me, I get my official PSP tomorrow from Sony, 1 day before official release, LOL, how generous of them!
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Posted: 2005-08-30 20:57:20
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j79 Posts: 2

So nothing more ?

Did SE gave a date for a new firmware which could solve the problem.

That' a shame I'm using the internal HP to phone from my car !!
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Posted: 2005-08-31 14:21:08
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onezone Posts: 112

HAPPYCHEESECAKE - BT Headsets are not all that it doesn't work with..

I have a TOMTOM GO 700, and it doesnt work with that either. it will state that it is connected, but you hear nothing from the TOMTOM speaker when you try to make or receive a call.

The tomtom has a BT Handsfree kit built into the unit, works fine with the K700i, and various other models and manufactureres of phones, but not with the K750i or the D750i

I am about to sell me K750i and my D750i as theres no point in having a BT Phone that doesnt work with my BT Car kit,

Have also spoken to TOMTOM, who state they are aware of the issue with the K750/D750, and are currently unable to offer any hope of it working.

Mann... I dunno..

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Posted: 2005-08-31 14:48:03
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