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Hmmm... Unlocking septic sounds like a good idea, but partnership with SE, no way. That would take away our rights to give them a hard time if we show serious dislikes on a model of theirs.
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Posted: 2005-12-10 21:41:39
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No, not a partnership, like

should at least give esato some promo stuff to give away/sell for some money for site things for being such a big supporter of

don't you think?
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Posted: 2005-12-10 22:30:13
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its a good idea. we dont really want

snooping around here though
dude_se
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Posted: 2005-12-10 22:45:56
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I have long since longed for

to let me have preview models in the same way that mobile-review (a non specific phone site) and others get early news and preview models to review so that the review can be posted on announcement day.
I have tried, with several models, contacting

UK only to be palmed off to half a dozen departments none of which actually seem to know, or want to admit to know, anything about the model I am inquiring about and suggesting I contact another depart who never call me back.
while I agree with tranquils point, there is certainly no harm in

liasing with Esato in a relationship in which we can objectively discuss their products, as we are already doing, but in such a way that maybe our comments are taken more seriously and returned to them via some official channel.
I look at Top Gear (an English motor vehicle review TV program) each week, for example, and they get cars from all manufacturers willingly and they objectively and honestly give their remarks on camera, sometimes taking the total p**s, but still those same companies provide future cars for review knowing that at least an honest opinion is being given.

, for too long, do seem to have chosen whom they provide samples to on the basis of who gives good reviews, or who simply repeat press release content, and I think its time for us here at Esato to be more involved. after all we are one of the most dedicated forums to their products and the heaviest users.
to get back on topic, I'm not sure if any of that will improve Esato's position in that forum league but I'm sure it will both add to the seriousness with which comments on Esato are taken and also create a serious 2 way flow of information/problems/solutions between us and
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Posted: 2005-12-10 23:02:45
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To be honest I'm getting bored of esato, I'm one of the few "oldies" around here and I'm visiting esato once a week when I'm bored where before it was once per hour ... . Something need's to be changed, only the forum is a good source of info (when you find it) while the other sections are allmost obsolete (right word ?).
There used to be themers around here and reviewers which added some content to esato but they are all gone .... (only masseur is doing some complete reviews). Only thing left is the news section brought to you by one man ... I have nothing against axxxr, he does an excellent job but when he is away, nothing move's around here ... The fact that we never see the admin (laffen) around here is also a big issue.
There are way to many "only" for such a site.
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Posted: 2005-12-11 00:48:50
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I have been knocking no doors and made numerous calls to SE over the years too with the same result when it comes to borrowing phones prior to launch.
But, when I have called, like for Playtime, they have been helpfull enough.
There has been times when I called them to warn them, like a while ago when someone had hacked an app on the S700, and they have been praising Esato up in the sky, promising to provide help back, but never do.
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Posted: 2005-12-11 08:16:10
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me gots an idea, i will make a "flyer" "banner" "brochure thing-a-ma-bob" today and we can post them around...
stick em on our sites, also if some of you have time and printers maybe just some things to leave at cellphone shops and other places where we can promote Esato.com.
Tell me what you think, i can start "production" today and have a few samples tomorrow...
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Posted: 2005-12-11 08:21:46
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It's been tried before, but why out try again? In for it mate!
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Posted: 2005-12-11 08:27:18
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um.... does any one here now laffen? he he he, yeah the genius behind here...
if it would be possible to get a high res image of the esato logo... im working on dem designs now for the leaflets...
thanks....
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Posted: 2005-12-11 11:10:27
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Promoting esato for what ? I'm not a negative guy but it can't really see what you can add on a flyer.
Many of us has warned before and made numerous thread's about it and nothing changed, now we are all leaving because of lack of that. I was allways true to esato as it was my very first home on the internet and it helped me alot ... well it used to be.
It is not normal that regular members are leaving, it just shows a problem ...
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Posted: 2005-12-11 11:24:26
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