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AT&T or any other carrier do not "cripple the phonees" as you like to say. In fact these are factory settings you are talking about. SE and Nokia and every other phone maker out there are the ones "cripple" the phones based on whick carrier they are making the phones for.
Slow SMS, what do you do time how long they are delivered? C'mon let's get real and NO, I don't work for AT&T. I am a stock holder with an inside track of the company and hate when people talk crap and don't know what they are talking about. It's people like you who like spreading false shit around. One thing I'll agree with you is the fact that Nokia sucks. They are the worst cell phone maker out there!
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Posted: 2003-01-13 16:51:00
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for the record, to buy a T68i direct from SE whould run you $620.00
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Posted: 2003-01-14 15:56:00
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Damn!! I like my phone, but i wouldn't pay 620.00 for it.
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Posted: 2003-01-14 17:48:00
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I can d/l backgrounds, screensavers to my phone from wap.esato.com am on AT&T here in Tulsa, Ok been doing it since August.
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Posted: 2003-01-14 18:02:00
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The T68is won't let you, I'm trying to get to the bottom of this right now...
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Posted: 2003-01-14 18:04:00
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marka2k:
I was able to do it earlier...but i'm not able to do it anymore...Themes i have no problem with...i just download the theme to my LT and then send it via infared to the phone. It's just the damn backrounds
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Posted: 2003-01-14 18:33:00
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I'm in OKC using T-Mobile. Also using a R520m.
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Posted: 2003-01-15 01:44:00
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@ Highrez
Hey buddy, do you remember a few days ago when you posted in this group about how AT&T sucks and that they have slow SMS? Well I found an article that I would like to share with. This article is about SMS and mentions AT&T and Verizon and your personal favorite Tmobile, I hope you enjoy:
Wireless Operators Lose Short Text Messages-Study
Tue January 14, 2003 11:55 PM ET
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Millions of short text messages sent between mobile
phones in the United States are lost every month, and the chance of two
parties connecting depends on which networks they use, a study to be
released on Wednesday says, Internet performance measurement company
Keynote Systems Inc. KEYN.O says in its study that 7.5 percent of all
short text messages sent between wireless telephone companies are lost.
The increasingly popular service known as SMS (Short Message Service)
allows mobile phone users to send brief messages instantaneously to
their friends and family. It typically costs 10 cents to send a message
and pennies to nothing to receive one.
In Europe, where it is also known as "text messaging," 10 to 15 percent
of wireless operators' revenue comes from SMS, but adoption of the
service has been slower in the United States, where users were not able
to send messages to networks other than their own until last year.
Still, industry group Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association
estimates that nearly one billion messages were exchanged during the
month of June 2002, the latest figure it has. At a lost-message rate of
7.5 percent, this means millions of messages never reach the intended
recipient.
Chuck Mount, general manager of Keynote's Wireless Perspective Service,
said a significant lost-message rate will not only affect carriers'
revenue but could affect customer usage of the still budding service.
Among the operators, the No. 3 U.S. wireless operator AT&T Wireless
Services Inc. AWE.N had the highest success rate in sending and
receiving messages.
It was the top performer in terms of messages sent to users on other
networks as well as messages sent within its network at 95.5 percent and
97.8 percent, respectively.
While rival Verizon Wireless VZ.N VOD.L , the largest wireless operator,
scored the highest in terms of receiving messages at a 95 percent rate,
AT&T Wireless trailed the largest wireless operator by only 0.2
percent.
T-Mobile USA, the sixth-largest wireless operator, was one of the worst
performers. Only 86 percent of messages sent from a T-Mobile phone to a
user on another network and 87 percent of messages sent to another
T-Mobile phone were successfully received.
The Deutsche Telekom unit DTEGn.DE received 92 percent of messages sent
from other networks.
Keynote said it test-sent nearly 26,000 messages in cities around the
country over a period of two weeks in December as part of the study.
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Posted: 2003-01-15 20:52:00
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BigDawg,
Just read the article. Next time just paste a URL, please. I don't think I can agree with this study. For many reasons.
First, you didn't send me the url it came from and I'm too lazy to look for it myself - and the article has holes like swish cheese that if you keep reading you'll understand.
Second, unless I misread what you posted it sounds like this study was about a bunch of guys sending sms's on different networks from a bunch of cities around the US. Thats cool, but the problem is they all apparently sent them to a single carrier in europe, Deutsche Telekom. Correct me if I'm wrong, I really hope I am and Reuters isn't carrying complete crap.
Third, you as a stock holder should stop listening to news sources and do a little more "in depth" review of your portfolio. If you want to know how well a "service company" is doing listen to its customers. Just search for "AT&T Wireless International SMS" on google. You'll get this URL second from top:
http://forums.attwireless.com/attws/board/message?board.id=gen&message.id=942 ... A petition to get ATTWS to fix international SMS - which is fairly new and has MANY MANY signatures. Now "Roberto" did a very nice job at explaining that ATT accepts all inbound SMS's. This could very well be true. But he left out the fact that to get those messages routed to att there has to be an SMSC peering relationship. If say an o2 user in the uk wanted to send an sms to an att user the o2 user and att user's smsc's would have to know about eachother. This requires private transport (actually this is fairly often done over the internet, unencrypted!), a username, password, TON, NPI, Address Range etc etc etc. The packets don't just magically know where to go. I don't fault Roberto for not knowing this, it seems he was fed the same crap that the PR machine fed to Reutors - in hopes it'd get to investors, perhaps?
As far as international SMS is concerned the big problem is not getting the sms from your phone to the network, it is getting it routed correctly from there. There are SMS brokers which have already established relationships with a large number of the carriers. The problem with going that route is you have to use their international prefix on numbers routed to you. Also some carriers will (as they should!) filter inbound sms's to a specific range of addresses owned by the peer. So ATT could not say use the broker and still retain its addresses. THAT is the problem with international SMS on ATT. The article you posted does not appear to at all whatsoever even come close to objectively analyzing the quality of international SMS between US carriers. All that spinning is making me dizzy.
Erm, just reread the article. I'm still a little confused why they chose to put DT in the loop, except maybe to compare against them - although that wasn't made entirely clear. Anyways, I don't retract what I said about the international sms problems with att.
As for the article itself. It wasn't clearly written and did not point to any evidince other than the numbers cited - and since they didn't explain exactly how they arrived at those numbers they're still useless to me.
Specifically, how they picked locations, verified results etc. That is the type of information that if it were solid might get me to change my opinion about att's sms in the US. Also note that if you hit keynote's page and pull up partners, then click on "business alliances" you'll see AT&T at the top. Nough said.
[ This Message was edited by: highrez on 2003-01-17 11:28 ]
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Posted: 2003-01-17 11:27:00
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Okie is from oklahoma:-o Btw, okie, we wait 4 u in topic R520! COME AND ENJOY THE SHOW!
This message was posted from a R520
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Posted: 2003-01-17 11:32:00
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