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Yeah but its too late for Apple.
They made this contract with Moto last year amid all the hype about the great impending music phone wars, when each mobile manufacture was beating their breasts about who will come out top.
Why Apple limited the ROKR to 100 tunes I'll never know.
If someone needs to buy a mobile phone - which is an essential piece of equipment these days - did Apple really expect them to make a decision between that and an iPod?
Likewise, to an iPod owner, an iPhone that holds only 100 tracks will be useless!
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Posted: 2006-07-18 17:58:29
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I know, that whole iphone thing was a debacle.
I'm pleased, because I wanna see apple get a caning.
I liked the ipod at the start but got jacked off with their proprietary attitude over the years, just the same as I did with MiniDisc and ATRAC (actually that was worse).
So it's about time they got taught a bit of humility, IMHO.
Sony on the other hand have already started coming around to providing what the market wants. SE's quick response to the Walkman demand will soon show a flagging in ipod sales.
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Posted: 2006-07-18 18:26:40
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"ATRAC is hardware based not software"...You learn something everyday.
Sony's turn around is in reponse to what the public wants. After trying so hard they finally gave up...Power to the people.
Now the Walkman brand can walk all over most DAP's if they were to incorporate as many formats as they can into it. The walkman's original format was the cassette then cd(nothing else to compete with it) then md(alot of format comp) all hardware! Now MP3,WMA,AAC,Ogg...etc. That would bring the Walkman back to popular status. . . and a better phone.
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Posted: 2006-07-18 21:28:20
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On 2006-07-18 21:28:20, Jea-cea wrote:
"ATRAC is hardware based not software"...You learn something everyday.
Sony's turn around is in reponse to what the public wants. After trying so hard they finally gave up...Power to the people.
Now the Walkman brand can walk all over most DAP's if they were to incorporate as many formats as they can into it. The walkman's original format was the cassette then cd(nothing else to compete with it) then md(alot of format comp) all hardware! Now MP3,WMA,AAC,Ogg...etc. That would bring the Walkman back to popular status. . . and a better phone.
Yep, ATRAC requires an ATRAC chip on small devices like phones and mp3players. The codec and encryption process is too complex to tack on to the existing AAC/MP3 decoder chip in use in SE phones currently. To support ATRAC, you need a whole extra chip on the mainboard, or else double the size of the existing chip to include ATRAC. Have you ever seen how crowded those things are?
It'd be a nightmare for SE to have to include ATRAC on their phones - it's either one or the other not both. So it's goodbye ATRAC.
You may not see OGG supported anytime soon, because it is still a rare format. If the market embraces it as they have mp3 however I'm sure they'll include it in due course.
The K800 supports an increased portfolio of formats: AAC, MP3, WMA, MP4, 3GP, WMV, RealVideo (along with amr, mid etc).
I think WM format support is a smart move. They are obviously aligning themselves with Microsoft in preparation for competing with Apple! Now you can use music stores to buy WMA music and download to phone, using Windows Media Player 11 for licence management and WMA audio (which does compress quite well) on the phone. You can make playlists and synchronise with removable drive letters in WMP11.
Who needs itunes?
Bring it on
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Posted: 2006-07-19 02:21:52
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Now you can use music stores to buy WMA music and download to phone, using Windows Media Player 11 for licence management and WMA audio (which does compress quite well) on the phone.
Hmm, I was under the impression that it only supported unprotected WMA files?
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Posted: 2006-07-19 08:35:42
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On 2006-07-19 02:21:52, max_wedge wrote:
Now you can use music stores to buy WMA music and download to phone, using Windows Media Player 11 for licence management and WMA audio (which does compress quite well) on the phone.
Hmm, I was under the impression that it only supported unprotected WMA files?
Actually, my bad, I think you are correct. Mind you I don't think many mediaplayers can play protected wma anyway? Also, it's a simple matter to burn a cd, then rip an unprotected track from the cd you made.
Only so you can play it on your music device of course
Certainly there are third party players that support wma protected, but no third party players can play protected m4a, because apple want to force you to buy an ipod.
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Posted: 2006-07-19 08:47:45
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