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shaliron Posts: > 500

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Well if the Chocolate has WOW factor, how about the Z610. Now that has WOW factor, so how can you complain that SE has none.
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Posted: 2006-08-26 04:58:48
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mib1800 Posts: > 500

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K800 is a design gone wrong with that ugly hump at the back. And it is 22mm thick compare to N73 19mm. Dont even try to compare to a samsung.

K800 height/width is about the same as N73 but N73 has screen area which is 40% bigger.

K800 is branded as cybershot but photos lost to N73 in daylight (see gsmarena/m-r comparo).

N73 or D900 has video recording which are way ahead of K800.



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Posted: 2006-08-26 17:46:35
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shaliron Posts: > 500

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K800 is a design gone wrong with that ugly hump at the back. And it is 22mm thick compare to N73 19mm. Dont even try to compare to a samsung.


I'd agree with you if you said that the hump on the back was a minus from the overall design of the K800, but you've got your facts wrong.
The K800, at its thickest point is 22mm, but that's only at its camera cover area. The rest of the phone (the majority) is at around 19-20mm.

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K800 height/width is about the same as N73 but N73 has screen area which is 40% bigger.

Well the difference in the height and width is quite a bit, especially in mobile terms. The N73 is 110mm long, compared to the K800 which is 105mm long. Don't say that the 5mm doesn't make a difference, because when you compared the K750 to the K800, you'll see the difference immediately. Also the width is 49mm to 46mm. So the N73 is almost 5cm wide, which doesn't help it's ergonomics (wide phones aren't good for the hand).
The screen is, nice and large though, but I'd rather battery life TBH. Not to mention that the N73 doesn't look well proportioned.

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K800 is branded as cybershot but photos lost to N73 in daylight (see gsmarena/m-r comparo).


Well, the K800 is branded Cybershot, because it is a very good overall camera phone. It isn't fair to say that the N73 is better because in full daylight sun, it can produce better photos. Have you seen the photos in low light? They're pathetic, even compared to the D900. Colours are off, noise and grain. I'm not even going go into detail to see what happens if the xenon flash is used...

You should really post accurate facts when making such arguments.
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Posted: 2006-08-27 05:43:23
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mib1800 Posts: > 500

shaliron

The rest of the phone (the majority) is at around 19-20mm.

But that hump will show in your pants literally. N73 thickess is at 19mm.

The screen is, nice and large though, but I'd rather battery life TBH.

N73 has a good or even better battery life than K800 in normal daily use. This has been reported by people who own both phones.

It isn't fair to say that the N73 is better because in full daylight sun, it can produce better photos. .... You should really post accurate facts when making such arguments.

If u hv read carefully I didnt say N73 is better because of the camera. I only say N73 camera is better than K800 in daylight. So info is accurate.



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Posted: 2006-08-27 10:54:55
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shaliron Posts: > 500

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K800 is branded as cybershot but photos lost to N73 in daylight (see gsmarena/m-r comparo).


Well, I did read carefully, and you did say (you implied) that the N73 camera was better by ignoring the plain and clear facts that the camera sucks in low light. By branding it Cybershot, SE showed that it was the best overall camera phone in its class, thus making it a reliable camera in all conditions. Not just best in one particular area, which you have decided to do to make the N73's camera sound superior to the K800 Cybershot camera.
Now you know why the K800 is branded as Cybershot (and deserves to be as well).
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Posted: 2006-08-27 11:05:06
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Marly Posts: > 500

When you are comparing photo quality, you should not single out the best condition (i.e. daylight), but look at overall quality. Imo quality under poor conditions is even more important.
Even my K700i takes good pictures in daylight !

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[ This Message was edited by: Marly on 2006-08-27 14:38 ]
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Posted: 2006-08-27 15:33:35
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QVGA Posts: > 500

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On 2006-08-27 15:33:35, Marly wrote:
When you are comparing photo quality, you should not single out the best condition (i.e. daylight), but look at overall quality. Imo quality under poor conditions is even more important.
Even my K700i takes good pictures in daylight !

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K700i, K750i, V600i, K800i

[ This Message was edited by: Marly on 2006-08-27 14:38 ]

How about the fact that N73 captures good quality video? For me, that makes up for the bad low light pics.
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Posted: 2006-08-27 15:41:14
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b3rx Posts: 113

well photo quality is different from video quality. so i think it still doesnt add up.
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Posted: 2006-08-27 15:51:19
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QVGA Posts: > 500

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On 2006-08-27 15:51:19, b3rx wrote:
well photo quality is different from video quality. so i think it still doesnt add up.


No, but its like loosing in one thing, and making up for it by winning in another,
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Posted: 2006-08-27 15:52:17
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mib1800 Posts: > 500

it was the best overall camera phone in its class, thus making it a reliable camera in all conditions.

K800 cannot be best overall. It is only equal to N73 because N73 wins in daylight and K800 wins in low light. So that's about balance out the performance.

K800 can be best overall only if you say K800 is a lower class phone than N73.

[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2006-08-29 14:27 ]
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Posted: 2006-08-29 15:25:24
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