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Using VBR rather than constant will produce a better sound.
If testing different bitrates then listen to the drums, in particular the high hats, to help measure your preferred standard for encoding.
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Posted: 2007-05-24 12:55:47
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i use a 'reference' track that i know off by heart and have heard on stereo's worth £10 to HiFi's worth £10,000
also comes in handy when trying out different levels of compression.
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Posted: 2007-05-24 13:04:12
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My suggestion, you must convert all your songs to the better compression format song. if u want all your songs playing at 196kbps mp3 quality with less memory used, u can compress it to m4a aac 144kbps, or aac+ 128kbps, or even he-aac 96kbps, i hear the near same quality in my ear. Try it, u can save 20% for aac, 30% for aac+, 40% for he-aac (not same 4 all songs & not a fixed calculation, but can be used for comparison).
before compress, make sure ur phone support the codec, i knew w700 can play aac codec, but i dunno if the other codec too.
ps : pls note that SE phone still can play the unsupported AAC format (AAC+,HEAAC), but it played at bad quality and rough, compare it with PC musics players (winamp etc)
- sorry 4 my bad english -
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Posted: 2007-05-24 14:01:34
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VBR (
Variable
Bit
Rate) all the way for me! try to find a good size-quality ratio for your phone storage needs. for my phone I use VBR-5 (0= better quality, 9=smaller size). for my Zen Vision M (30GB) and my PC I use VBR-1.
You'll need
CDex for that or any other CD ripper/encoder that supports the LAME MP3 code.
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I will never EVER buy another Sony Ericsson joystick phone Again!!![ This Message was edited by: xan K on 2007-05-24 13:55 ]
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Posted: 2007-05-24 14:53:51
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On 2007-05-24 12:55:47, bulti48 wrote:
Using VBR rather than constant will produce a better sound.
If testing different bitrates then listen to the drums, in particular the high hats, to help measure your preferred standard for encoding.
I agree, VBR is much better than ABR, more consistant quality even in really complex pieces of audio and easier on the ears. But VBR is also 25-50% bigger in file size than ABR. I have been thinking of converting to VBR though I must admit. It's tempting. I'd rather a track in 160VBR than 192Kbps mp3 anyday even if they are the same size.
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Posted: 2007-05-24 14:56:08
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On 2007-05-23 22:22:40, JuanPablo wrote:
Hi all
I have a question. I have a 2GB Memory Stick Pro Duo and I use it with my W700. But it's nearly full and I want to store more songs
I've uploaded all my songs in 192 kbps. My question is... is 160 kbps enough? The quality is (almost) the same? Is there a huge difference between 192 and 160 kbps?
I listen to music with the headset (included in my W700, I don't know the name

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Thanks in advance
[ This Message was edited by: JuanPablo on 2007-05-23 21:22 ]
Which format are you using, MP3 or AAC? With the SE headset (original handsfree or hpm-70), 160Kbps AAC or 192Kbps is probably a good compromise between size and quality. Keep in mind the less compression is used the better ANY headset will sound, unless it's one of those $2 jobbies
But if you are happy with the SE headsets, you will probably be satisfied with 160Kbps AAC, or even 128Kbps (use your own judgement: listen to a track encoded at both rates back to back. If one doesn't jump out as being much better than go with the smallest one)
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Posted: 2007-05-24 15:07:34
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I go with 128kbps.I dont go higher or lower than that.
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Posted: 2007-05-24 15:41:35
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I have to agree with Batesie here, but here's another interesting thing on the subject...
It depends on what type of music you listen to! For example, a complicated classical piece should be encoded at a high bit rate to ensure that none of the quiet sections or softer instruments become distorted or even left out. Also, the loss of clarity and 'muffling' that occurs with lower bit rates is much more noticible when listening to classical or vocal pieces
Happy Hardcore or Thrash metal, on the other hand, can be encoded at lower bit rates because they typically lack the 'musical detail' of other genres meaning that there's less chance of the track becoming spoiled through encoding. And often, they both deliberatley use distortion anyway so a little more from the encoding process doesn't make much difference!
Give it a try if you don't believe me
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Posted: 2007-05-24 16:40:42
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well said cyco and welcome back....
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Posted: 2007-05-24 16:48:52
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Generally 128Kbps, though I do prefer 160 or 192, I can certainly tell that a lot of data has been lost when listening to a 128kbps MP3, though the equivalent AAC sounds much better, just a shame many devices don't support that format!
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Posted: 2007-05-24 16:58:45
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