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Dogman, so im a SE fanboy, but who cares (except for you). if i want to tell the guy how awesome i thought P1 was, i tell him. (or do i have to read everytime that im a fanboy ? ). of course not.

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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-08-12 20:36 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-12 21:35:27
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@Dogman I have not bothered to read the whole tread. I've only read your last post thou and can't believe you compare the P1 with the N95. Not even hardened SE fanboys do that. Am I missing a point (or 2) or what? If one were to take the best points from the K,W,P series + some other letter which has GPS and another letter with gprs/edge/3g/hsdpa/wifi-g , then I would say we have a contest (N95 will still have better video rec + tv out + tones of software and the KWPxyz will have touch screen). You better help me decide between e90 or n95. Will all the software I have gathered so far work on the e90? I know it will be just fine on the n95
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Posted: 2007-08-12 21:37:33
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@mario2004

I wasn't comparing them directly other than that was the question asked by the original poster and despite what some would like to think i do believe in freedom of choice. Just because a device suits my needs doesn't mean it will be right for everyone we all have our own particular wants and needs i was only showing the differences to allow the original poster to see what his options are.

@plankgatan

Just get a life no one said you couldn't proclaim how brilliant you believe the P1 to be but was a huge picture really so necessary some visit ESATO on Mobile devices and if the want to see a picture they can got to he P1 thread a little consideration for your fellow users would be really nice. You are just so over the top with your SE devolution a little balance would also be a good thing, don't you think?

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-08-12 21:02 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-12 21:50:38
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meh... the p1i is a better device then the n95 for me and i know a few n95 users that have been converted as well... main reasons: ram and battery life.... the most features don't always dictate which device is best for a person....

the us version of the n95 is a respectable device if they really did boost the ram and battery though..

battery i'm 100% sure.. the ram part is still people guessing...

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[ This Message was edited by: DragonEye on 2007-08-13 16:27 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-13 17:25:28
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@Dragon Eye,

Well that all really depends on what you want to do with your device as the N95 being an N series is a Multimedia smart phone not a business smart phone and on those features it kills the P1 stone dead.

It has a much better Camera, Video recording and playback is also far superior, a better screen, a much better Music Player with a 3.5mm jack, plus TV out. Better Web browser and is able to use HSDPA for far greater speed.

The only area that the P1 is superior is data entry, Ram and as you say battery.

But then i wouldn't try entering lots of Data without the aid of a bluetooth keyboard on a N95 but it's E-Mail, Calendar and even Document viewers all are also excellent.

Really it all depends on what you want or need your device to do, but if you want a Nokia business smart phone you need an E series device not a N series. Of course it also depends if you want need or like a Touchscreen device or not.

Which is why i use a E61 for Data intensive tasks and have no Ram issues and possibly the best battery life found in any smart phone and a N95 for Multimedia and again have no Ram or battery issues.

As IMO thee is still no ultimate convergence device that does it all in one package, well not yet anyway hopefully one day there will be.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-08-14 00:58 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-14 01:58:00
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see Marc those are based on you comparing the products strictly based on specs..in real life experiences i find things to be very different...

as for the e series...
i actually prefer the p1i keypad over the e61 i had (i like the feedback better and can actually type faster on the p1.my hands also aren't as tired after a day of texting...... i can type plenty of emails, work on excel and word quite easily with the touchscreen and keyboard mix....

in terms of the n series
the camera is better on the n95 overall in terms of quality.. but it's not substantial enough to me...i much prefer the Camera UI in the SE... it remembers settings and the quick keys make it more efficient for usage and for me that's more important then slightly better picture quality...

as for video quality i'm using the same framerate, bitrate and encoding techniques and files worked with ease on the n95 and p1i i had.... the p1i actually fast forwards and changes media faster.... yes the n95 supports h.264 and from what i've heard the p1i doesn't but i haven't tested either...

in terms of the music player... i also like the uiq filter (doesn't pick up any ringtones.) the sound quality through a2dp is better and has less static interference on my walk to work. having a 3.5 jack is useful but i like the ds-200 as it can used as a bluetooth headset as well....

so you see Marc every device can go both ways.. purely looking at specs you can say the n95 is better but in terms of actually usage i personally find my p1i much more satisfying to use..

you've always mentioned ram has never been an issue with you and that's honestly quite amazing... every s60 phone except the n76 i've had has given me ram issues... i guess i was spoiled from my computer and p910 ways were apps never actually have to close and can just run on the ram forever..

i'm sure we can go on forever after all it's just opinions...

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[ This Message was edited by: DragonEye on 2007-08-14 04:58 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-14 05:49:31
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@DragonEye,

But then i have never claimed there is a perfect device for every one only what suits each user best.

As for no Ram issues that's easy i only use the N95 for Multimedia, my Calendar is synced no entries made on the N95 same for E-Mail although it is more than capable to write some, the Web browser i don't need to enter any addressees as all my Bookmarks are synced from my computer and of course when out and about i can make use of HSDPA for much faster browsing and downloading.

As for the Camera well with the V12 Firmware this has improved greatly and unlike what you say many on this forum are far from happy with the picture qaulity is what is being said including a nasty tint on one side of pictures. Back to waiting for yet another infamous SE firmware to fix it.

I haven't seen the P1's video playback yet but the 16m colour screen on the N95 really is stunning and bright and clear in a variety conditions and it is acknowledged that part of the price you pay for a Touchscreen is a loss of qaulity even if it is an improved and trans reflective screen.

As for the Music player well it's simply stunning and the best sound i have heard on any smart phone which is not just MO either, i don't use Bluetooth for this as i consider it an inferior solution. Also i don't suffer from my ring tones showing up either just place then in the My Video's folder along with anything else i don't wish to show up in the Gallery and they are all hidden yet easily accessible and very easy to do. I have yet to hear Music playback on the P1 but it really will of needed to improve drastically over the M600 which was far from impressive and not even close to the N95's performance IMHO.

As for the Ram situation again i am using two devices so my E61 never runs into problems either plus it doesn't suffer from the issues carried over from the P990 again as reported an complained about in this forum. Also i love my proper qwerty on the E61 much prefer it to the M600 which i had but then you don't and that again is fine by me as is down to personal preferences.

What i can agree on is i also loved my P910 right up till it stopped syncing with Outlook at which point it became useless to me.

Yes i doubt we will ever agree on which device is best for both of us and that's actually fine by me i really don't have a problem with you choosing what suits you best and works for you as i do for me obviously we have different criteria when choosing a device.

Despite what some like to think i really am for freedom of choice just can't stand people slating a device just because it has the wrong badge or making things up that are faults is all. I have never suggested any where on this Forum that some one should buy device A over B and certainly never just based on the manufacturer, i will always point out the difference in specs as that IMO helps to make a balanced judgement and is a far more valid way of selecting a device then just brand loyalty especially if that loyalty tends to be abused. At the end of the day everyone chooses what suits them best as it should be. Some on this Forum IMO really need to start to understand this and lose the fanatical belief it has be SE or it's rubbish mentality it really would make the Forum a much nicer place. We should all be able to debate and then at the end of it agree to disagree if necessary.

Marc



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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-08-14 05:55 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-14 06:49:34
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i understand your uses.. but how do those things impact ram? putting an address in your browser is not going to cause a memory overload.. it's the act of multitasking where memory issues occur...nothing is more frustrating for me then to have a random app disappear...



meh.. you keep saying se and their firmware fixes... nokia has has just as many firmware updates for their phones.. and things aren't always fixed by them either... bluetinted n73 pics ring a bell? you're in a SE forum, obviously SE users will report their issues.. hop over to any other forum and you'll see that nokia s60 forums just like the SE forums is always talking about improvements, updates, bugs because like you said no phone is perfect...

you said it yourself v12 firmware drastically improved the n95 camera firmware....

It's odd that the "my videos" folder seems like the only folder that is hidden from the nokia search and locate and annoy system.. till this day i don't understand the logic lol..


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Posted: 2007-08-14 16:15:07
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@Dragoneye To argue that the P1's picture or video quality is anywhere near the N95's is utter rubbish and you know it. If not please stop fooling/confusing yourself. (Actualy that's OK with me but some SE fan make take you for serious and make a fool of himself too).
But then again - There is REALITY and there is the SE forum
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Posted: 2007-08-14 17:20:55
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imo, the p1i picture quality is not as good as the k810, so i guess it should be less respectable than n95.

the us version on n95 seems to be very much in race for a great device, but having said that, my biggest problem lay on the material used for n95. doesnt anyone think that it's way too plasticky? well below the standard of where the price stands. i found mine has a thin hair gap on the screen side parts, and the chrome plated button suffer from peeling off

but then again, it's just my case
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Posted: 2007-08-14 17:43:45
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