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On 2007-10-17 10:29:58, mwarner wrote:
It pains me to say this, buy the K850 is a bit of a disappointment for me, especially compared to previous platform advances (K610, K700, K750, K800) where the functionaility was at least as good as it's predecessor and there were solid advances in the platform. The sort of things I mean are:
- D Pad usability
- Lack of Pause/Resume button on the phone - especially as this doesn't function on the HPM-82 either!
- Inferior flash photography to K800
- No standby clock / information
- Noticably slower UI
- Inferior benchmarks, indicating a slower CPU
These shortcomings wouldn't be such a problem if there were significant platform advances, but there's not really a lot in this release apart from the new media player, which is OK but far less usable due to the lack of instantly accesible Play/Pause functionailty!
I'm excited about K850, but the initial reports of slowness are worrying. Though it is possibly just firmware problems.
I can live with the lack of sleep mode clock, but I'm a little worried about the missing pause button. Perhaps music can be paused some other way, it seems quite bizzare to remove the pause button. I can only assume this is more of an effort to differentiate Walkman and Cybershot models. It's really stupid because it turns a device that can be used for three main purposes (phone, camera, and mp3player) into a much more limited device. All for the sake of ONE little button and stupid branding games.
I have no problem with branding through styling, infact I like the cybershot branding, but functionality should be kept well out of the equation.
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Posted: 2007-10-17 12:35:26
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> why would they use a SLOWER cpu??
Presumably for reduced power consumption or reduced cost. Usually this gets done automatically by the CPU manufacturer using a smaller process, but perhaps not this year!
> I'm a little worried about the missing pause button. Perhaps
> music can be paused some other way
Me too - I could live with it if my HPM-82's Play/Pause and FF/RW buttons worked, but they doesn't - only the volume!
> I can only assume this is more of an effort to differentiate Walkman
> and Cybershot models.
I tend to agree. It seems odd in my eyes to put in a more advanced media player and then have no readily accesible control mechanism for it! I will be mightily pissed off if it is a deliberate move to stop the Play/Pause buttons working on external headphones to force you to use the Walkman branded phones.
Mike
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Posted: 2007-10-17 14:23:42
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Well after using the phone more and more and using other K850i's I and a few collegues have come accross just a few more problems with the current firmware.
1) If you recevie a voice mail, you are notified that a voice mail message has been left on the main screen, however the voice mail icon on the screen doesnt show. (O2) not tried on another network yet.
2) When you connect the phone via the usb cable, You cant see the ringtone folder (Not on o2 phones any way)
3) Phone doesnt support Mp4 tunes and doesnt support some jpeg photos. Both K750, K800 does support these as this is where they have come from.
4) When the phone is connected to USB. On trasnfering a picture, the picture has duplicated it 4 times and over rid one of the original SE photos.
5), The flash Def doesnt always sink when the pic has ben taken, or the flash doesnt always go of (Confirmed on other K850i's)
6) I can also confirm that sometimes the Shutter doesnt always open. On sime phones its fine and on others it just doesnt open all the time (o2 phones as well)
If there are any others I will post asap.
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-10-17 14:01 ]
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Posted: 2007-10-17 14:44:27
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God, I'll add my support for the standby clock. Why it was removed is a complete mystery. Obviously the development department wasn't quite on form.
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Posted: 2007-10-17 14:54:47
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I think that we need to email SE regarding the stand by clock.
Not that it will do any good as it never does. But i think they should have given us the option for us to switch it on and of.
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Posted: 2007-10-17 15:00:20
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This all worries me. I presumed I'd be getting a K850 straight away, but two things concern me. Can people give further details of these two issues:
1. Is video playback really worse than the K800? I use my phone for watching M3-ripped DVDs more than anything else - does anyone know what bitrates work on the K850?
2. MP4 audio is not supported?! You have GOT to be kidding me! You mean it cannot play HE-AACv2 files? I have loads of albums ripped with M3 to .m4a on my K800. Will these not work?
Thanks for any further info
Tom
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Posted: 2007-10-17 15:00:35
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On 2007-10-17 15:00:35, tomchadwin wrote:
This all worries me. I presumed I'd be getting a K850 straight away, but two things concern me. Can people give further details of these two issues:
1. Is video playback really worse than the K800? I use my phone for watching M3-ripped DVDs more than anything else - does anyone know what bitrates work on the K850?
2. MP4 audio is not supported?! You have GOT to be kidding me! You mean it cannot play HE-AACv2 files? I have loads of albums ripped with M3 to .m4a on my K800. Will these not work?
Thanks for any further info
Tom
1. ** The video quality is worse no doubt about that. (Clarity is worse) but the speed is fine. Speach is fine but about 5 seconds out from the picture on most formats
2.**The phone currenlty says, this file is not supported and you get to choose skip the file or skip all. ** ** But we havnt tried all formats **
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-10-17 14:06 ]
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Posted: 2007-10-17 15:04:04
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I have a load of .m4a tracks on my memory card (transferred via bluetooth from my mac) and they all work fine.
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[ This Message was edited by: rosco on 2007-10-17 15:01 ]
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Posted: 2007-10-17 15:22:48
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I find the video is far better quality than the k800. You just need to get the bit rates right.
Has anyone prompted SE to this forum yet?
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Posted: 2007-10-17 15:56:35
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Oh yeh the phone's got more features, more MP cam etc but SE decides to put a slower CPU in it? wtf is wrong with them?
Sluggish UI is one of the biggest reasons for me to stay away from a phone..
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Posted: 2007-10-17 16:03:57
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