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k800i has pretty good quality, though you cant turn the shutter tone off -_-
i dont know if you can do that on any of them though
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Posted: 2007-12-15 22:26:46
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Check the photo shootout competition in gsmarena, you'll notice that nokia phones have some other features that SE dont have. Specially
that k850 camera is not as good as expected. some users say that the k810 has better quality and performance.
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[ This Message was edited by: josesoto14 on 2007-12-15 22:59 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-15 23:57:30
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i will be very very surprise if

dosent fix the next camera software to k850.......
i want my portrait pictures on moving targets (people, etc) become as good as my flash & ordinary portrait pictures....
i want the Expourse Time little little faster on this kind of pictures, then the shapness comes....(you see it little little blurry if you compare to the houses, etc)
i want this sharpness on people...(yes..k850 have the capacity)
or this
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-12-15 23:20 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-16 00:13:41
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The best SE cam phone is the one with the best photographer behind it.
If taking good photos is your thing, then read up on lighting and compositon techniques, such as 'the rule of thirds'.
Any 2 Mp

camera will produce very good photos as will the 1.3 Mp S700i. A/F, xenon flash, best pic, etc add to the experience but are not essential to produce good photos.
One thing I've not heard anyone mention is the effect of the

UI on the use of camera settings. When comparing V630i, Nokia 6234, Samsung Z400v, Motorola V3x cameras recently I was impressed by how easy it was to adjust settings on the

as opposed to the others.

really do make it easy to get great shots.
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Posted: 2007-12-16 00:21:16
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@car - I FULLY agree with you when you made mention about the USE of: xenon flash . . . really brings MORE life to the object taken . . . as sometimes the built-in flash or plain-light with the fone will NOT fully suffice
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Posted: 2007-12-16 00:29:00
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It's also true that adjusting the settings from daylight to cloudy or fluorescent (if inside) makes a significant difference too. I always check the settings before taking a shot now because it's just so quick and simple using the

UI.
About the pictures above:
@Plankgatan
IMO the blurriness in the background of pic 1 (little girl) is caused by the strong light coming from behind you and highlighting her. As the background is in shadow, it has become blurry due to the way the camera has adjusted to the foreground.
This is a problem for you to fix not

You could also think about not getting your shadow in the pic, and using the 'rule of thirds' you could have the girl just left or right of centre so as to provide more atmosphere from the surroundings.
From the series of photos you posted, I also noticed that you get too close and cut off items of interest like the spire on the top of the building and the tree next to it. In this pic (2), you focused on the shadow in the middle of the building and lost the detail from the surfaces that were lit by sunlight.
Keep practicing!
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Posted: 2007-12-16 01:06:46
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@carkitter
Mmmmhhh....sounds interesting....
Could you explain to us what this "rule of thirds" means when it comes to photography ????
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Posted: 2007-12-16 03:38:58
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On 2007-12-16 03:38:58, Stud wrote:
@carkitter
Mmmmhhh....sounds interesting....
Could you explain to us what this "rule of thirds" means when it comes to photography ????
It means NEVER to focus on an object/person which you wanna take AT THE CENTRE OF THE SCREEN. Place them around one third of the screen and the photo will come to life.
Eg. A person staring at something at his/her right side(head a bit turned ). Take the picture of him/her a bit more to the left side(from your camera's viewing screen), so it will portrait him/her looking at something with more room in the picture. This will make you think more of what he/she is loking at, and thus picture becomes more interesting AND lifelike this way.
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Posted: 2007-12-16 05:04:45
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On 2007-12-16 05:04:45, tai020381 wrote:
Take the picture of him/her a bit more to the left .
as what Beyonce made mention in her SONG (Irresponsible) . . . to the LEFT, to the LEFT . . . .
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Posted: 2007-12-16 05:13:12
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On 2007-12-16 03:38:58, Stud wrote:
@carkitter
Mmmmhhh....sounds interesting....
Could you explain to us what this "rule of thirds" means when it comes to photography ????
Wikipedia explain it
here with a cool demonstration pic
Here are some shots I've taken using the rule of thirds; notice the position of my son, and the trees...
and here, the position of the mountain and the Sky Tower, and the horizon...
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Posted: 2007-12-16 05:39:34
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