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bass and volume are not sound quality, infact the volume will reduce the higher the sound quality.
time and again its been proofed sony walkman are better than ipod. check
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Posted: 2008-03-18 01:41:00
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^^
W700 and W800 was the best quality and everything
Why SE Drawback?!


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Posted: 2008-03-18 01:48:49
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Obviously those that believe Sony to be of better quality are either to fanatics to open there true senses, or do not own both Sony/SE and iphone/Ipod.

If you did ...... there is no way around this one...... Take it from a previous SE fan....... I'm very partial on this one.... while Sony does make a competetive MP3, it is still no match for the iphone/ IPod.

No No No way...... not yet atleast..... please be honest folks..... and if you do not own both units , do not bother making comparisons.....
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Posted: 2008-03-18 03:29:43
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I've made comparisons. So have many experts on head-fi and other such forums. Some say ipod is better, some say Sony is better. Generally, most agree the latest Sony MP3 players are better than the past and now support MP3 native (ATRAC is dead).

Problem is default codec on ATRAC players was atrac3plus 48Kbps (supposedly equal to 128Kbps but in reality not even close). So most comparisons of older Sony units are flawed from the start.

As far as Walkman phones go, of course we can't compare directly to quality dedicated players, such as Sony, iPod, iRiver, Creative etc, but you certainly can't describe the quality as poor. For something that's a phone and a camera as well, SE Walkman phones are very good quality and nothing to be sneezed at.

Playing a 320Kbps track on my K800 via HPM-70 to my Sony CMT-BX3 aux-in, I can't honestly complain. It's a tiny little bit flat compared to the exact same track on CD (I just listened back to back). On this level equipment the difference is negligble. On high end gear the difference would be more marked but still not enough to claim poor quality.

Any MP3 player is going to sound a little flat compared to CD (unless playing pcm wav).

Other back to back tests I've done using my senheisser HD202's and SE walkmen phones against CD bears the same kind of result.

As far as I am concerned SE Walkmen phones (actually mine's a cybershot not walkman!) can be compared against dedicated mp3 players and come out looking good indeed.
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Posted: 2008-03-18 05:32:16
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with the new sound and algorithm technology applied in W980 we'll see if it will shine better than the past walkman phones i believe W980 has something new inside it's housing (a sound processor like the Icepower amp? or a dedicated sound processor ). W980 is the first phone produced after Mr Komiyama take charge of SE wherein we saw a lot of Japan inheritance to the new SEs
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Posted: 2008-03-18 09:23:00
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I completely agree with Dogmann and max_wedge here. Though I would give Sony Walkmans (not phones) a little more credit.

I currently have a latest model Sony Walkman, a 5th gen ipod 30GB and have tested my girlfriend's 3rd gen ipod nano 8GB, and her brother's latest model 80GB ipod classic. I encode my music at 256kbps and use the top of the line Sony in-ear headphones. I can say that ipods and Sony Walkmans seem very similar and seem to both be very high quality.

I don't notice a huge difference between the brands, but do like Sony's more complete equaliser options. Sony Walkmans don't have the megabass feature like Walkman phones, I think this is because it is rather gimmicky. They do have a very extensive equaliser though.

Now, I've tested a few phones and I own a W910i Walkman phone. It is certainly true that a music phone can't stand up to a dedicated music device yet. I can easily notice the quality difference, and this is with the same headphones and same music files. I've heard the W910i offers the best Walkman phone sound quality yet too. I am not complaining at all, and to the majority it will make no difference or not even be noticed. I certainly don't mind listening on my phone once in a while.

What would I choose though? I would take the 30GB (or more) ipod. Just for the fact it stores more and it has a lot more options for video playback and video filetypes (the Sony is quite limited). I'd only listen to my phone if I forgot my MP3 player.

It is still true, if you want a very high quality music device, well a phone doesn't quite cut it, YET.
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Posted: 2008-03-18 09:48:36
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but I found 5610 from Nokia Provide what you said
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Posted: 2008-03-18 10:12:46
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I think you will find a lot of people will disagree with that, Pop Lover. But if you personally enjoy the sound quality from it, then that is great! That is what it is all about really, find a device whose quality suits you and run with it!
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Posted: 2008-03-18 10:27:30
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I still have all my music encoded in 80 kbps .mp3 from my 41Mb K700i days for minimum file size but pumping it through the HPM-64 headphones that came with my new V640i I must say I'm impressed. I can hear guitar and keyboard effects I've never noticed before in songs I've listened to a million times and crystal clear sound that stands out like a sore thumb.

I don't own an iPod or a Walkman nor will I ever bother to. Convergence devices are what I want and fits the bill well. Infact, the V640i is the first phone I've owned which doesn't feel compromised. It has a REAL digicam and a REAL MP3 player squeezed into a device I'm beginning to think is massively under-estimated here on Esato.
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Posted: 2008-03-18 11:07:53
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Yeah definitely personal opinion. I don't mean to sound up myself, but some people such as myself and Dogmann seem more into our music and seem to appreciate finer quality sounds than others. Thats why we'll argue against the music phone more than others will. It really shouldn't matter or bother you if you're happy with what you have!
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Posted: 2008-03-18 11:33:21
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