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johnmcl7 Posts: 321


On 2008-07-03 23:17:39, Prom1 wrote:
There is a bit of purple fringing (tint) in the photos ... you don't notice it in the first one, but the others its there.



That's what I was thinking, it's definitely the case for the first pictures although that's obviously acceptable with it being a phone camera but I'm not sure if it's the overexposure causing harsh contract and thus more fringing or if the WB is just out. The houses in the background look odd colours which makes it look more like both the metering and WB are a bit wonky. The E90 does allow you to set minus EV compensation so I assume the E71 does as well, if set to underexpose by one stop (-1 EV) I think the pictures would come out a lot better.

John

[ This Message was edited by: johnmcl7 on 2008-07-03 23:21 ]
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Posted: 2008-07-04 00:19:20
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@Prom1

Those are the folders for my other E-Mail accounts and all the other messaging options. I believe it's mono but when i watched a program on BBC iPlayer the sound was good, even when i watched a Music Video on YouTube it sounded good.

@all

Really i think we need to remember E series devices are Business focussed and whilst they have some Multimedia abilities it is not there strong point. Same as an N series device will perform some Business functions but there strong point is Multimedia. The E90 gets closest to performing both but even that has it's weak points in the Music player and not quite as pretty UI.

I have given up on waiting for the ultimate convergence device as up till now it doesn't exist and personally i don't think manufactures will ever give it to us. Although of course they could if they wanted to IMO but for their own reasons just don't seem to want to.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-07-03 23:54 ]
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Posted: 2008-07-04 00:54:25
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On 2008-07-04 00:54:25, Dogmann wrote:
@Prom1

Those are the folders for my other E-Mail accounts and all the other messaging options. I believe it's mono but when i watched a program on BBC iPlayer the sound was good, even when i watched a Music Video on YouTube it sounded good.

@all

Really i think we need to remember E series devices are Business focussed and whilst they have some Multimedia abilities it is not there strong point. Same as an N series device will perform some Business functions but there strong point is Multimedia. The E90 gets closest to performing both but even that has it's weak points in the Music player and not quite as pretty UI.

I have given up on waiting for the ultimate convergence device as up till now it doesn't exist and personally i don't think manufactures will ever give it to us. Although of course they could if they wanted to IMO but for their own reasons just don't seem to want to.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-07-03 23:54 ]


Thanks Marc.

I think the N95 & the soon to be shipped N96 ARE THE ultimate convergence devices. They come closer to than anything I can recall. The E90 also is right up there ... its really a laptop replacement - I would've loved to see USB Host abilities on it and the N95 but hey we cannot have it all.

E71 - on the bottom Left/Right there is a small grate ... I'm thinking those are the speakers. In the same position on the E66 they are there as well.
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Posted: 2008-07-04 03:28:45
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dgable Posts: 111

Hey Marc,

Nice review. Pics look better than the ones my tytyn 2 takes and thats the phone im looking for the E71i to replace as it looks more pocketable and s60 is more user friendly for everyday use on the move imo.

I have an N95 8gb for my multimedia needs but i want a qwerty fone for msging, email and facebook etc and your review has convinced me this is the phone ive got to have so the sooner vodafone stop trying to butcher it with their own firmware and get it released the better.

Many Thanks!


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Posted: 2008-07-04 10:44:27
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johnmcl7 Posts: 321


On 2008-07-04 00:54:25, Dogmann wrote:


@all

Really i think we need to remember E series devices are Business focussed and whilst they have some Multimedia abilities it is not there strong point. Same as an N series device will perform some Business functions but there strong point is Multimedia. The E90 gets closest to performing both but even that has it's weak points in the Music player and not quite as pretty UI.




The point is more I think the hardware can perform a lot better, if you look at the picture of the dog in the shadow where it is exposed properly you can see it is very good. I think with some fixes to the camera part of the software they could improve it considerably.

John
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Posted: 2008-07-04 12:39:24
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Dogmann Posts: > 500

Hi John,

It may not all be the Camera's fault as i am most probably to far away and not even an average photographer as i said that really was just wait for the green focus box and take the picture. No real thought or any idea of what i am doing comes into play.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-07-04 13:38 ]
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Posted: 2008-07-04 14:37:48
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On 2008-07-04 14:37:48, Dogmann wrote:
Hi John,

It may not all be the Camera's fault as i am most probably to far away and not even an average photographer as i said that really was just wait for the green focus box and take the picture. No real thought or any idea of what i am doing comes into play.

Marc


No apologies accepted/nor needed for the photos ... it SHOWS just how useful the camera is ... most ppl would LOVE to take photos from afar of the subject and it represents how most would use it! Great job.

@John, the hardware is QUITE capable (I'll try to find a video comparison link on a blog vs the N95-4), and I'll agree a firmware fix would greatly improve it.

I cannot help but think this is Nokia's big messaging push, and a precursor to a new E90 replacement down the road - slimmer, powerful, pure genius.

This is Symbian power! Also has anyone tried to new Nokia Email service?

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Posted: 2008-07-04 17:49:38
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johnmcl7 Posts: 321

It's a phone camera, it should be able to work on full auto - the camera module looks a good one so hopefully they can do some tweaking to get it working properly.

John
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Posted: 2008-07-04 18:02:39
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@ftyk Posts: 139

an e51 with a qwerty keypad.
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Posted: 2008-07-04 19:05:40
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Supa_Fly Posts: > 500


On 2008-07-04 19:05:40, @ftyk wrote:
an e51 with a qwerty keypad.



oh much more than that. GPS tweaked S60 3.1 better calendar & Contacts newer CPU. E51 is still pretty good.

Found that N95 vs E71 video playback comparison. Courtesy of Mark Guim.
http://thenokiablog.com/2008/[....]8gb-video-playback-comparison/


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Posted: 2008-07-04 23:30:48
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