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panonski Posts: 345

original firmware and driver
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Posted: 2008-12-28 13:07:12
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NightBlade Posts: > 500


On 2008-12-27 02:53:19, panonski wrote:
look here.




The juice in glass particularly. Do you see some kind of strange efekt in it?

Like "solarize", but pic is in normal mode obviously.


That effect is some kind of bug noise. When the light conditions are just a little bit poor, this software doesn't do a god job with pic.


What's wrong with the pic? Is the fact that you haven't focused on the glass of juice bothering you?
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Posted: 2008-12-28 13:29:32
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panonski Posts: 345

don't understand?

Look the pixelize shadow side on the glass where the light is mix with shadow.

Do you see some strange efekt, which is look like U turn the mode "solarize".

I have not seen such a thing before on pics in normal mode.
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Posted: 2008-12-28 13:46:59
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NightBlade Posts: > 500

Maybe you should post a 100% crop...
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Posted: 2008-12-28 13:55:21
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panonski Posts: 345

maybe U should watch it more carefully

But it's visible already. There's no need. And if it so visible now, how visible wolud be in crop? Afraid to think.

And it is not my photo.... It is pic from our member who post it couple of weeks ago... of course, it was shoot with C905
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Posted: 2008-12-28 14:14:37
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marty mcfly Posts: > 500

I see a very, very small amount of noise. But this is kind of going round in circles. A cameraphone will always have noise of some kind in poor light, it's unavoidable. I'm willing to bet in the same poor light, the K750 wouldn't have done much better. I had the W810i with the same camera module, so I'm pretty experienced with what it could, and could not do. i.e, Daytime, fantastic! Indoors with Poor Light? Forget it.
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Posted: 2008-12-28 14:19:52
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panonski Posts: 345

You're absolutely right in one thing. It's a problem. But WHY.. Well, it is not so much less light in this photo to make such a noise in a little area of the glass shadow.

I wondered how is possible to make any kind of better pic ( at least then the K800 or C902 ) with these firmware or camdriver?

Come on Raider ! Come on Number1... U can do it

Firmware is obviously big problem here. To much noise reduction,
stupid ( read "intuitive" ) shoot modes, in which you can't find any of photographic attributes such is, for example, very important shutter speed, or aperture ( i wonder does it exist - probably not)

It's so stupid. I make 200 photos just to try this modes, to see effects of all of them. Sport is worst one in noise. I cannot believe my own eyes what noise was on that pic. (I will post it right now)

In dark (or room light) I can't make my settings, I must be satisfied with stupid intuitive mode, which does not let me to change sistem of focusing, or switch it on macro, if I chosen "landscape in dark" Or "Portret in dark".

"Document mode" have only macro, "Landscape in dark" have only infinity. Superb camera I must confess.


If someone from Sony Ericsson read this, I would be much happier.

Cause, any changes which will came from them, should be more photographic, and less "intuitive"...

[ This Message was edited by: panonski on 2008-12-28 18:10 ]
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Posted: 2008-12-28 18:58:13
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panonski Posts: 345

SPORT MODE




CROP


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Posted: 2008-12-28 19:41:39
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NightBlade Posts: > 500

sport mode

Not too bad, having in mind that this mode increases both brightness and noise.
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Posted: 2008-12-28 20:44:49
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panonski Posts: 345

It's embarrassing .... In every pic which is not on full day light or flash, noise is like snow on screen.

I wonder what they're thinking .... Certainly, I live only in daylight.
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Posted: 2008-12-28 21:08:32
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