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Finally some sense, thanks fatreg.

As for your comments @Bonovox..

Cant transfer via bluetooth? OH NO! how is my life going to survive without this feature? (btw People are working on a project to makes this possible) I really dont see why people consider this a big feature. A2DP maybe, but transferring a vid to your mate via BT isn't really life or death.

Cant use custom tracks as ringtones? Yes you can. Can even do it within iTunes.

No MMS? Yes, again this is possible. Even an MMS app in the app store.

No video? Yes, there is - Cycorder.. available for jailbroken iPhones. Also it's pretty decent.

Poor camera? Take a proper camera out with you if you want decent pictures.

Dont like the 'idea' of having to use iTunes? Yeah, neither did i before owning an iPhone.. never owned an iPod and was always against iTunes (some some unknown reason!) but now I love it... so convenient, and really nice to use.

Crap reception? Nah, mines fine. Usually full bars wherever I go. 3G speeds are really quick on it too.

These days i really do think people get all wrapped up in a feature-rich world where specs are the only things that matter. The iPhone is one of the few devices that prove specs really don't matter. I love using this thing, and it's interested me more than any device i've owned since i had a P800.


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Posted: 2009-02-01 16:59:41
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Well stated fatreg.
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Posted: 2009-02-01 17:51:32
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I have not had the chance of using the iphone but now have an htc hd and am pritty sure that alot of the features and the way the handset works were somewhat down 2 the iphone. As for it being over rated isnt it good company advertising to get that hype? Not being funny but if it wasnt for that first Wap phone or the first Cam phone we wouldnt have the phones we have today. I love my new hd just like i loved my P990 now my wife and most of my family think they are 2 big and complicated, probably because they have different tastes than me.

I for one thank the iphone for making phone companies realise that more user friendly interfaces were needed and yes the iphone might not have the best cam in the world but what do we really do with photos taken on our mobiles? we show other people them on our mobile screens and i for one would rather take photos with my digital camera to print off than on my mobile.
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Posted: 2009-02-01 18:01:02
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Excatly. Just the same way all high end Nokias feel like they have been put togtether with lego. Or they way the batteries run out on them so quick.

I think there is a lot of envy towards the iphone probably because up until recently it was only available on contract and was quite expensive. Im not going to guess how old the thread starter is but I know a lot of kids use this forum so im guessing from that perspective an expensive contract phone isnt going to work well with a school kid.

As for the cons well they are well documented and to be honest if everyone shared the same view then the iphone would have not done half as well as it has even less. Apple set out to make a phone with a revolutionary interface, something that they achieved. You only have to look around and ask who else is there that has an interface as sleek and nice. Palm have managed it what over a year after iphone?

The question is will the pack be able to keep up with iphone once they release their sucesssor.
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Posted: 2009-02-01 18:05:06
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The trillions of iPhone users are not stupid. They just have different tastes than us - which is why they adapt to its cons fairly easily. To me personally, the Appstore concept doesn't make sense but you can think otherwise since 300 million people or so agree with you.
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Posted: 2009-02-01 18:52:21
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The iPhone demonstraded that it´s not about the number of features but the implementation of these features that matters. There´s a tendency in the tech market that´s harmful both to costumers and companies. Since it´s a very competitive and ´fast evolving´ market, manufactures try to differentiate themselves by having the biggest number of techs or functions available to the consumer in the shortest time. That happens with mobile phones, computers and etc. The 'real-use', quality, implementation and integration of these functions are most of the times an´after-thought´. The iPhone came to balance that. Apple set itself out to make a product that combined three functions and design it to match ´form and function´ the best way it could (multitouch = adaptive interface). All of the sudden, people were using their iphone for more ´functions´ then other ´multi-function´ devices, the satisfaction rates were up to almost 90% and a device with a poor camera was becoming the number one camera on flickr (ahead of n95 which has a much more capable camera and even had more units in the market at the time). The other companies are opening their eyes now to this new opportunity.
People that rant over apple´s products because others have ´more functions´ are totally igorant about the company´s ideals or designs. It may not suit your needs but it´s hard to find an apple product that´s not a ´quality´ product. Its similar to the windowns 98 and mac os comparison a couple of years ago. If you tryed to 'shut down' your pc, you had to go to the ´start´ menu (no sense?), then you were presented with a window with a text on top, two buttons at the bottom and drop down menu for 4 options (restart, shut down, etc). Can´t guys see what´s wrong with this???? If there´s only 4 options why create so many steps, buttons and even a drop down menu?? Doesn´t it make more sense to just put up a window with 4 easy-acess BUTTONS for your choice? That´s apple´s concept of UI. And that same way of thinking if implemented all over the iphone and itunes.
About the marketing. You guys have to remember that much if not most of this marketing was not created by apple but by the press. There were hundreds of millions of dollars worth in advertising spent on the iphone and apple didn´t put a dollar in that.
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Posted: 2009-02-01 19:54:22
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You seriously think this argument can be compared to the Holocaust? It's a phone for goodness sake!
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Posted: 2009-02-01 20:28:44
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The people who dont rate the iphone and desire to express that fact keep their opinions out of the iphone 3G thread out of respect for this forum and not wishing to troll that thread with unwelcome and unwanted opinion.
Such a shame that the iphone users/supporters can't show the same respect to people who hold opposite views to their own!!
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Posted: 2009-02-01 21:02:31
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And it's such a shame you were not able to enforce a similar rule over on MR. Double standards.
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Posted: 2009-02-01 21:22:22
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Yes. It clearly proves that millions of people can easily be wrong.
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Posted: 2009-02-01 21:48:42
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