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On 2009-03-29 17:11:06, recl wrote:
12 mpx for a phone is huge! you'll only need 12 for high def posters or something like that.that's if you have a good sensor...
happy now?
[ This Message was edited by: recl on 2009-03-29 16:11 ]
The sensor ALONE will NOT help you get quality pictures ... remember the LENS which the sensor looks through is also important. An example is the human eye ... if no issues then we're mostly all born with a quality 'sensor' but over time the 'pixels' within become stressed. Having a quality lens - Glasses - helps the quality ... you wouldn't trust your eyes to a walmart brand lense would you?! Its REALLy loosely compared but you get the idea.
Also the cpu will play a HUGE part in sensor performance & battery drain. I have a giddy feeling the reason for the Idou & N97 debuting late this 2nd QTR is because shipments of new 4-Core ARM-11 or Cortex cpu's will be sourced to be used in these devices - whether its from Qualcomm, Broadcom, Texas Instruments, or Freescale they have access to all the designs.
NOTE: the TI 3430 OMAP can be had on a test board for under $140US.
On 2009-03-29 17:27:37, gtr83 wrote:
Can't be bothered by HD video recording though. All those features need to wait until some new kind of battery comes up which can last long enough. And he's right, to beat N86 in a blackout party you don't need 12MP, or even 5MP cams for that matter. K800's xenon flash is enough.
Well Said.
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Posted: 2009-03-30 11:48:55
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any more recent comparisons for these 2 phones?
I am trying to decide between the two of them right now for a backup phone
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Posted: 2010-03-21 01:11:15
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On 2010-03-21 01:11:15, jake20 wrote:
any more recent comparisons for these 2 phones?
I am trying to decide between the two of them right now for a backup phone
Get an N86 and then compare picture quality yourself
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Posted: 2010-03-21 01:31:33
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On 2009-03-30 10:39:36, erazer007 wrote:
Xenon or a better flash does not necessarily make the camera better. Different people have different needs. I f you dont need a camera to take pictures in the dark, a smaller flash or even lack of flash wouldnt cause much problem.
Of course it could make the cam better. if a mobilephone is slated to be a IMAGING device...putting a xenon flash is just proper. NO EXCUSES
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Posted: 2010-03-21 02:41:42
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perfect example would me the C901...if this phone is only equipped with LED..it will never going to draw attention from people who's into "phone photography". They would never consider retiring their K800/850 for C901. But since it has Xenon flash..it's no brainer
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Posted: 2010-03-21 02:52:53
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And if you'll going to ask a Nokia user what is the best imaging device that they have use..the N82 is always up there. Why? because it was equipped with xenon flash
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Posted: 2010-03-21 02:55:56
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I agree! Xenon is very important if you're into serious mobile photography. Led flash is just too weak no matter what
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Posted: 2010-03-21 03:14:45
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On 2010-03-21 01:11:15, jake20 wrote:
any more recent comparisons for these 2 phones?
I am trying to decide between the two of them right now for a backup phone
Im actually working on one right now...
http://forums.wireless.att.co[....]d=sonyericsson&thread.id=44233
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Posted: 2010-03-21 15:21:45
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On 2010-03-21 03:14:45, Shino03 wrote:
I agree! Xenon is very important if you're into serious mobile photography. Led flash is just too weak no matter what
I read this statement all the time and for some situations is true but not ALL... I actually own both a C905a and the N86 and find my self being pleased with the dual LED more often than the xenon, here's why....
xexon - great for stopping action due to its VERY SHORT illumination duration... however this short duration of illumination works against you when shooting night portraits because the C905a just doesn't have the low light capability to capture a good (or even fair) amount of the ambient light in a darker area or scene. More on this and pictures will be included to prove this in later posts on my thread which is linked in previous post.
Dual LED - can NOT be beat when being used as a video light and also produces enough light to illuminate darkened scenes on the interior of homes or what-not... dual LED however has a much longer duration of illumination which makes action or moving shots blurry... if you want crisp/sharp images in dark situations at fairly close range, this is not the design for you.
also... if you play with the dual LED and setting provided with the N86 enough, you will see what I mean.... and may even realize that "xenon" in a camera phone, lands (IMO) more on the bells and whistles side than performance enhancement side..
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Posted: 2010-03-21 15:34:14
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my theory is that if dual LED works so well, then why does every single REAL camera have a xenon flash?
I don't see any Nikon's or Cannon's coming out with Dual LED flash's instead of xenon's...
I am not knocking the N86, and I think its clear that the images produced are better than the C905 for the most part.
But I could just see myself needing to snap a shot at night requiring a bright flash, and being out of luck because the dual led's are not up to the task.
Daylight shots are still pretty darn good on the C905, so its not like they are total crap next to the N86, and with the modded DM3.8 driver, you can really get some great looking pics.
Lets not also forget that the N86 is around $100 to $150 more than the C905. Thats a lot $$ if you are primarily concerned with just the camera, and not all the bells and whistles that come along with a smartphone.
I think eventually one day I will pick up the N86, but for right now the C905 seems to hit that sweet spot for me.
Just my opinions of course
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2010-03-22 01:34 ]
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Posted: 2010-03-21 21:00:54
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