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Complete package = Iphone? hmmm...dont compute
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Posted: 2009-03-31 11:22:22
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lol, 'mum' should have been would, stupid T9 typing lol.

Actually it shouldnt have been there, T9 automatically placed the word in lol.

And I havnt insulted anyone here BTW, I have just called the I phone rubbish.

Anyway, forget about the T700, I have my LG Arena now, and yea, it actually is the complete package unlike your I phone.

But truth be told, every bit of your defense against the I phone can be said about any single phone on the market which you own, defending a phone just because you like it doesnt make it faultless, or a complete package as you like to call it.

The I phone is not worth the money, nor is it worth changing to O2 for anyone that actually highly values mobile internet usage.

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Posted: 2009-03-31 11:28:16
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How's the Arena's Appstore looking?

When you start banging on about "fanboyism" because you can't think of anything else to come back with, that's an insult. Just for future reference.

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Posted: 2009-03-31 11:34:45
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I dont need apps, the phone does everything I need.

Its also only been out for 5 days now, I doubt there were many apps available for the I phone after 5 days either.

I dont need apps at all when my Arena already does everything I need it to out of the box.



Here is apples App store:

http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/

I see not even one single thing that I actually need to download or have on my phone.

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Posted: 2009-03-31 11:36:34
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But it does support third party apps, right? What OS is it running?

I mean, that's a good long 18 month contract you've taken on. Presumably there are ways to extend the functionality of the phone, to suit your needs later on, when the inbuilt functions don't cut it anymore.

Or are you expecting major updates from LG?



Oh I see, you've got your choice of 15,000 apps already built in. And you'll get free updates to those presumably, as and when services change and improve, right?

I mean, the Arena is an iPhone competitor, right? It's going to stay just as "relevant" as the iPhone, isn't it? More so, surely, what with it being "far beyond what the Iphone is capable of"?

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Posted: 2009-03-31 11:40:19
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OS is LG's own S Class UI, very good reviews and very comfortable and easy to use.

What needs am I going to have later on into my 18 month contract that I dont need now?

I have:

Calls
Texts
Internet
Google Maps
Youtube
5.0 MP camera
720x480 video recorder
Calendar / calculator

Apples 15000 apps are mostly useless junk things like games, and not at all important or required to actually use a phone for 18 months.

I would be more wary about a handset that actually requires apps to extend its usability over 18 months, then a phone which is good enough to last without having to download a single extra thing.

Also, I have never ever on any of my past phones had to pay for a single download - I dont care about nor need any useless apps on my phones.

Apple may have 15000 apps, but I always thought that quality was better then quantity. E.G, I wouldnt ever download, and actually laugh at the idea of an app titles 'IDecideFoood', I mean, WTH do I need to fill my quality handset with junk like that for?

And it doesnt matter how many apps you add to your Iphone, you still cant use it to record a video and upload it to youtube.

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Posted: 2009-03-31 11:58:14
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in fact there are ALOT of very useful apps on the app shop, and many are free

and I can record video and upload it to youtube as seen below

in fact, so far, I haven't found anything that I wanted to do that I can't.

I'm happy to add stuff to my phone that suits me rather than having a load of stuff that I don't use. Its the same with my PC, it comes with windows and I add on exactly what I want to use... same with my house... its comes empty with the basics and I add the stuff that suits me... this is how many things in life work and one size fits all rarely is the best IMHO


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Posted: 2009-03-31 12:12:44
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Not very good videos, nor does the camera take decent pictures compared to a 5 MP shooter, but, yea:

http://www.iphonevideorecorder.com/

Still, you need an app to do something that most phones do out of the box and with better quality.

You like your I phones, and enjoy using them. I, and many other people still wouldnt ever buy one because of the things it still lack and its underspecified.

Many people might like using a K850i, but that doesnt make it the best handset ever, revolutionary, or the complete package like I phone fans like to claim about their device.


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Posted: 2009-03-31 12:28:04
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That describes the UI, and nice eye-candy it seems to, but what technologies does it support? You've got Exchange compatibility for email for example, but what about calendar or contacts? Does it support push? These are genuine questions, perhaps it does do these things, but I know I'd never have bought the iPhone before it supported them in OS2.

Apps are a major part of the iPhone and what keeps it relevant (with a serious nod to the subject of this thread). Because of the Appstore, and all the free apps as well as the paid ones, the iPhone never goes out of date - it's evolving continually with new abilities being added all the time, and constant free updates to all the apps you've installed.



How about turn-by-turn GPS navigation (coming to the Appstore in June from various sources). What about Twitter or Facebook or whatever the next big internet phenomenom is (whatever it is, the iPhone will have a free app for it)? What about Exchange compatibility for your calendar etc if you change jobs? Internet radio? Ebook support? Editing of spreadsheets or other file formats? Access to live travel info? Wifi printing?

You may well have no interest in any of those things, but you can 100% guarantee that over the next 18 months there'll be a few different things you'll wish your Arena could do. And the iPhone will have an app for them.



But surely a Nokia 3300 from ten years ago does all that's "important or required to actually use a phone for 18 months", so why on earth would you lumber yourself with the expense and inconvenience of that big touchscreen phone and 18 month contract?



And you can judge that longevity on the same day you received the phone, right?

More to the point, of your list above, calls, texts, internet, Google Maps, Youtube, camera, calendar and calculator all come pre-installed on the iPhone (together with stocks, weather, notes, itunes, and more) so... what? Video recording, is that what this comes down to? The ability to record a rubbish video clip versus the ability to do... anything and everything else you could dream of, now and in the future?



There are huge numbers of quality free apps for the iPhone. The paid-for stuff meanwhile is easily the best value stuff available for any platform (games for 59p that would cost ten times that on WM for example).



You don't, the Appstore provides choice, simple as that. Amongst those 15,000 apps are tons of apps you wouldn't be remotely interested in, but there will also be apps that equal or beat some of the extended functions of your Arena, and others that (as much as you may feign disinterest now) you'd doubtless find genuinely useful.

But you can't have any of them, because you chose to lock yourself down to a closed phone for the next 18 months with no possibility of new features or improvements.



Yes you can. It means jailbreaking, but there is an app to do it.

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Posted: 2009-03-31 12:37:25
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Doesnt jailbreaking / unlocking / using another networks sim card nside an I phone invalidate its warranty?

Why on earth would I want to invalidate the warranty on a phone with a built in non changable battery and memory?

I dont condider doing anything that voids the warranty of a phone just to increase its usefullness a good thing.

I can use Twitter and Facebook on any mobile phone with a browser, no need for a seperate app. I have been using facebook on my T700 for months now.

I believe from its demo video the Arena already has turn by turn GPS, but I dont need this feature myself so wouldnt know.

I setup my Email account on my phone as soon as I switched it on, and it allows my e mails to be read on my phone.

And I dont care how much you continuosly mention the stupid 15000 Apps, you fail at reading the part where I already typed -

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I have no need whatsoever for any apps, neither does eveyone on this planet that doesnt own an I phone.




Errrr, no, you see, I can like, use third party apps any time I want? You cant? Only ones made by apple or you invalidate your warranty right?

I am pretty sure that LG will have downloads available for the phone, but again, you completely fail at understanding that I dont care whatsoever about ***USELESS*** downloadable apps on any off my phones.

There is not one downloadable app I have ever needed to add to any of my past phones to keep them useful for 18 months.

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Posted: 2009-03-31 12:46:59
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