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i have to side on the iPhone side.... not coz i use one and have done since the 2G version was released but because they have done what no one else has. They released a single phone with features that at the time werent anywhere near their competitors yet still managed to overtake many competitors within a few years. And all whilst still only selling 1 mobile phone product!

No matter how much u hate the iPhone that is something to be amazed by. And then theres the App store! The support iPhone users have given the app store and in return the developers has been immense!!! Can Nokia say the same with their Symbian Software? Only now are Nokia and other manufacturers creating stores like the app store to try and compete. And again only time will tell if they become as sucessful as the App store.

And finally, ask an average Joe iPhone user why he bought the phone and what he/she thinks of it... u get the 'i bought it as it looks good and works, i like it coz it just works and has loads of apps'

Then ask an average Joe Nokia/SE/Samsung user the same... 'i bought it as it had x number of megapixels camera and is {company names} latest phone...'

Two different groups of users with two different groups of use... everyone i speak to in my office get phones as they have loads of megapixels and dont think about apps etc... then i show them the iphone and the apps and they forget about the camera etc...
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Posted: 2009-06-02 11:35:40
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Exactly. I've been a smartphone user for years, I'm very used to using third party software on my phone, but even I've been surprised by the high quality of iPhone apps, how addictive they are and what good value they present. I'm well aware of the possibilities of Symbian, Windows Mobile and the rest, but right now it's the apps that keep me stuck on the iPhone, and will persuade me in time to upgrade to the next model. With all the apps I have on board my iPhone, it's a far more powerful device than anything I've carried around before.
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Posted: 2009-06-02 12:46:03
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Well, I'm happy for you that you like your phones etc. but this thread was not about how good/bad the iPhone or it's competitors are or what people think about it, it was about "market dominance"

Also I beg you, plz stop with the bloody generalizations of people
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Posted: 2009-06-05 01:21:32
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I've no idea what pedantic point you're trying to make there, but the fact is that Apple are in a dominant position because of the quality of their product and the eco-system (and apps etc) surrounding it - and by dominant I mean growing at a rate which utterly dwarfs the competition, and which is backed by developer support for its OS that far outweighs that of Symbian's or anyone elses.

If Apple aren't dominant in this sector (in your opinion), are you honestly arguing that a company that lost almost 6% of its marketshare is?

Are you expecting Nokia's share to climb in 2009?
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Posted: 2009-06-05 16:47:10
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Stop the bloody nonsense ;]

You compare 2.7% with 49.4%... When you have 50% of a such diverse market it's a bit hard to grow even more, it's pretty logical you will see a drop.

And maybe it looks like I'm trolling now but Seriously, you can't take a common word and say "with this word I mean..."

You are not dominating a market when you see a 245% growth going from 2.7% -> 8.2%


But hey maybe with the next iPhone Apple will really dominate the market -I guess we will know in a few hours ;]
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Posted: 2009-06-08 16:01:32
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It's not nonsense I'm afraid, merely an interpretation of events with which you are, it seems, extremely uncomfortable...



And then I compare 8.2% with 43.7% last year, and a growth rate of 245.7% against 0.8%, and I pretty easily see how the former is galloping away with the latter - can't you?



A drop of 6% in market share combined with stagnant growth, at a time when the smartphone market as a whole is storming ahead? The only logical assessment to be made there is that the company in question is faltering, failing to press home any advantage, and losing out to more dominant rivals.



When the word is open to interpretation, yes, of course I can. It's quite obvious that in your mind, Nokia will remain "dominant" right up until their lead is slashed to a fraction of a percentage point and their shareholders are baying for blood, but to me "dominance" implies that you still have some control or influence over your market, and that you can be sure of growth or at least maintaining your advantage. Nokia haven't had that for some time, and the figures you're so fond of only prove that.



You are when the long established leader is losing their position at the same time, and everything else (such as developer support) is coming your way too.

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Posted: 2009-06-08 16:27:36
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Oh well, I guess it's like trying to explain colors to a blind person...

From your point of view Windows 7 is dominating the PC OS market...

[I'm done here there isn't much more to say]
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Posted: 2009-06-08 16:59:19
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Interesting choice of analogy - Windows 7 is obviously the future of the PC OS market, after all. I don't expect much of a fight back from Vista, do you?

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Posted: 2009-06-08 17:12:33
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