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satio can't manage over 3000 media files (images, photos, audio, video).
full stop.
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Posted: 2009-11-27 19:35:12
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now that's SH!T ... Just think about it, why do mem cards become larger? BECAUSE PHONES ARE NO LONGER PHONES, BUT(!!!!!!) ENTERTAINMENT DEVICES!! you carry photos and videos and mp3 because you never know when you want to remember some holidays, vacations, etc, and to show to other people. Thats the point of it. Now i have ~2000mp3s (you ask me i listen to all of them? and i say yes! - on the road, shuffle, and if i am with friends, some like oldies, some rock, some hip hop, so i have them all... afterall it's an ENTERTAINMENT DEVICE), so that leaves me with 1000 photos? BULLSH!T.. then what will happen when 32GB/64GB card is out? useless....??? i don't own a satio yet (my dad bought 1 this week, and when Kurara comes out, he will get 1, and leave me the satio) but i hope they fix this ASAP.
stop asking stupd questions like why you need so many XYZ on a phone.. WTH? should i carry a laptop with me + a Camera + TV + 100DVDs + etc when i could basically have them all in one device?? seems like ENTERTAINMENT UNLIMITED IS LIMITED ....
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Posted: 2009-11-27 21:57:18
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I'm afraid it's not as simple as that.
With less than 3000 media files, there's no problem creating photo thumbnails, even if it does take a little while 'updating' the very first time after adding large numbers of photos. With more than 3000 media files however, you don't even see any existence of new photos taken in the 'latest photo' or 'camera album' let alone any thumbnails, regardless of how long you wait.

The new photos are present on the memory card (visible through the file manager or using mass storage mode), but when you're over that '3000 media file' limit the Media app will never recognise any new files.

3000 photos alone is probably more than the 'average user' stores on their phone, but if ALL media files are included in this '3000 limit', then, as Norbi points out, people who copy their music collections to the memory card are also likely to run into this problem before long...

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Posted: 2009-11-28 13:12:14
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Heh, i understand that is what you have been told about the 3000 limit, but i still dont see it to be such an issue.

So you're saying if you have over 3000 images saved any pictures you take with the camera are not visible on the phone but are still saved when the memory card is read via USB or card reader ? Sounds a bit silly to me.

Funnily, from the amount of memory i have free on my memory card i set the camera to 2mp. It says i can save 9999+ images. But only 3000 of them will be visible ?

Even if this is true i dont see it affecting me at all. This issue reminds me of when many Nokia phone owners came across to SE phones and complained that you couldnt set a full length mp3 file as a ringtone - the SE would only play the first 60 secs if i remember. The debate i had back then was why on earth would you want an entire track playing wasting your battery just because of an incoming sms ?
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Posted: 2009-11-28 22:31:01
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Yes, the problem is that if you have 10 songs and 10 videos you can shot only 2980 photos,
if your GPS navigator uses 100 images, you can shot only 2880 photos and so on, so as you can understand 3000 multimedia files is really too few.
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Posted: 2009-11-29 01:06:32
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Is that what your phone says that when you take 10 pictures you can only have 2990 more no matter how high the resolution is ?

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Posted: 2009-11-29 21:21:01
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as I just explained satio can't manage over 3000 media files, no matter if they are photos, audios, images or videos, with high or low resolution... it can't manage over 3000 files.
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Posted: 2009-11-30 02:12:07
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This is somewhat off topic, but the Media Go Windows app that came with the Satio on the memory card seems to suffer with a similar problem when loading too many media files. After adding about 6000 media files to the media library (mostly mp3 music, but also many jpg images and a lot of avi film clips), it takes several minutes to add new items to the media library, and even a simple operation like opening the properties window for a video clip takes several minutes.
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Posted: 2009-11-30 20:13:26
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But thats not what i asked. I'll clarify further.

If you take a picture with your phone does it say it can only take up to 3000 images no matter what size or quality they are ? or does your phone say 9999+ like mine ?


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Posted: 2009-11-30 22:10:48
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The phone unsurprisingly states 9999+ (at 2MP) as the camera application is just dividing the free space on the memory card by the average file size for photos at the selected resolution. It's not a deliberate limit that's been set across the whole phone, it's just a limitation in the way the Media app has been written.

The phone will continue to take photos until every last megabyte of memory on the card has been used up, and they WILL be saved to the memory card no problem, visible through the file manager or mass storage mode. It's just that the Media app (and this app alone) is unable to recognise more than 3000 media files
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Posted: 2009-12-01 11:40:34
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