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false_morel Posts: 375


On 2010-11-28 15:08:27, Shino03 wrote:

I somehow agree in that case but have you forgotten that those phones are also smartphones especially that high-end E7? I wonder how will barcode readers work?


E7 is business phone. Why would the camera be a selling focus point?

As to those barcodes readers, as far as I know, barcodes optimized for cell phones could be read with or without AF..


But the point to stress on here, it's shouldn't be described as decetiful act from Nokia!
They have an approach, and they justified it through their media outlets... I see no deceiving here.
You don't like those cameras.. Just don't buy those products!

Many on the other hand couldn't care less about macro shots, and could much more that they can easily and quickly to snap photos and did welcome that feature from Nokia..

It's all simple. That feature by Nokia has it pros and cons. If it fits you, go for those products. If not, just go get other phones!

Yet, all over the net you have some smartasses analyzing why Nokia went for this full focus.. Some say to cut down the production costs.. Others say it's a poor outdated strategy.. I say, you know what's really outdated here, it's those journalists who can't come with something new to accuse Nokia of!
Some even claim Nokia did so to help the N8 sell more! It can't get any more stupid than this! So they release three other phones and risk them not to sell good just for the sake of thier flahship phone. It's either some people are blindly stupid or just f**kin got out of their damn minds!!

I'm not a Nokia fan btw.. But I got some brains to use and analyze things myself.. I don't need a biased wiseass Eldar to help me out in this, nor do I need to read any bullshit article out there..

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Posted: 2010-11-28 20:05:30
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etaab Posts: > 500

Id like to know just how many people use barcode reading software and functions anyway. I had a barcode reader on my N93 back in 2006, every phone ive bought since has had the same software yet never once have i actually needed it or used it. Its one of those gimmicks imo that does not have a future.

I also notice the N8 appears to be my first phone in years without such software from the box. Possibly Nokia think the same as myself ?

Anyway moving on..

Nokia C7 review: Rise and shine
GSMArena team, 03 November 2010.

Update 05 Nov: To redeem the Nokia C7 here are a couple of shots taken with the sharpness set to a lower, more acceptable level. As you can see, most of the artifacts seen on the previous samples are now gone so the result is definitely more pleasing.

With sharpness tuned down, photos turned out for the better so much so that we actually went ahead and shot a comparative shot with the XPERIA X10. The Nokia C7 is actually quite on par with the XPERIA X10 - except in closeup shots, of course where the fixed focus C7 loses by a wide margin.



oh and they also said

the videos shot with the Nokia C7 did manage to impress us. The amount of resolved detail is good enough, colors look nice, noise levels are kept reasonably low. They are perhaps even better than those produced by the XPERIA X10 after it got its HD-touting 2.1 update


So, what does that say ? well to me id rather have autofocus any day of the week, id rather just have that extra control. But, it would seem these early reviews are quite good of these EDOF camera modules.

Besides, like we keep going back to, the phones equiped with EDOF cameras are simply mid range smartphones, or higher end smartphones not intended to be camera orientated as such. I still dont see a problem here, Blackberry dont make great cameras but have business spec devices, HTC also make great smartphones but rather poor cameras, the same goes for Samsung who's cameras are either bad, mediocre or outright brilliant on phones like the Pixon series. Theres no inbetween.

I dont see why Nokia should be so different. If you're expecting the same camera in the N8 to be present in every Nokia device, what would differentiate each one from another ??


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Posted: 2010-11-28 21:29:06
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etaab Posts: > 500

Heres an interesting article, well worth a read:

Damian Dinning on Nokia’s Full Focus Cameras

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Posted: 2010-11-28 22:18:34
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Bonovox Posts: > 500

Some business phones with high quality cameras can & I think do come in handy to some business people. Say for instance architects or surveyors who may need to take pics for their work. The c6 pics do not look that bad to me
www.gsmarena.com/nokia_c6_01-review-537p6.php
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2010-11-28 22:24 ]

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Posted: 2010-11-28 23:21:09
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etaab Posts: > 500

True, recently a surveyor and solicitor came to my business premises to inspect the unit above my store that im the manager of, i had to give them access as they did not have a key and watched as they took pictures on their cameraphones, one being an iPhone, the other a blackberry.

They're good samples on GSM area, but i think i'll stick with my N8.
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2010-11-29 19:27 ]

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Posted: 2010-11-29 20:26:48
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