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how do u get it changed?
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Posted: 2003-07-29 18:42:05
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we will not be talking about IMEI changing here on Esato... this action is illegal in many countries since changing IMEI on a phone mean that you are in possession of a phone which have been grey/blacklisted for some reason... if you are the rightful owner of the phone you will talk with you network provider and they can whitelist the phone.
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Posted: 2003-07-29 18:57:58
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cytech is right, i believe the sentence in the uk is 5 years for changin an IMEI or being in possesion of equipment to do it!
The EIR register has been around for a while now, there was a 'big' publicity thing (Judging by peoples reactions here it obviously werent big enough) about it so people knew what to do if their phone was stolen and also to discourage thieves as mobile theft is becoming a big problem.
The best thing to do is make a note of the IMEI numbers of any phones u have so that in the event of a theft/loss u can get the right one blocked rather than relying on the SP to work out which one it is based on the number used in the phone.
Note that if u have an unlocked phone u may need to contact the original SP to get it blocked. For example if u bought a phone on Vodafone and unlocked it for use on o2 then youd need to contact Vodafone to get the IMEI blocked.
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Posted: 2003-07-29 19:15:47
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Why is there a 'grey'listing possibility as well? What's the grey area? Wouldn't it be logical to have either a whitelisted (=OK) phone and blacklisted (=not OK at all)
How can there be a level in between and when does a phone get 'grey'listed??
Just curious
Thanks guys.
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Posted: 2003-07-30 12:36:17
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EIR - Equipment Identity Register
The Equipment Identity Register is a database employed within mobile networks. The database holds records for 3 types of mobile; namely black, grey and white. When a mobile requests services from the network its IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity) may be checked against the EIR, to assess which category of mobile it falls into. Black mobiles are those reported stolen or whose operation on the network will adversely affect network operation. These mobiles will not be allowed to access the network. Grey mobiles are classed as non-conforming and need to be traced, but may be used on the network. White mobiles are those that conform to requirements set down by the network operator.
JUST FOUND THIS, KINDA EXPLAINS IT.
found something else out too, apparently if a phone is blacklisted in the UK it can still be used abroad on another network. So if your phone is stolen it can be shipped to another country and sold there instead! I didnt know this
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Posted: 2003-07-30 16:35:42
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Oh
That kinda defeats the purpose of it then, doesn't it. It will only work if it's worldwide.
But thanks anyway!
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Posted: 2003-07-30 17:55:03
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yeh it is a bit aint it.
apparently the networks in other countries wont do it due to cost/lazyness. shame on them
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Posted: 2003-07-30 19:58:14
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Can these blacklisted phones be used abroad like in say Singapore or hong kong or are they blocked worldwide?
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Posted: 2003-07-31 10:33:16
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See my previous post mate
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On 2003-07-30 16:35:42, SCORPIONKING1982 wrote:
found something else out too, apparently if a phone is blacklisted in the UK it can still be used abroad on another network. So if your phone is stolen it can be shipped to another country and sold there instead! I didnt know this
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Posted: 2003-07-31 10:54:50
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Well, when T-Mobile had been telling me that they hadn't done anything to my phone what did you expect me to do? Just have a T300 that I paid £210 for just sitting there not working while I use a Trium Geo?
I'm all up for the stolen phones won't work thing but seeing as how mine wasn't stolen. And also this incident happened a long time before the "BIG" publicity thing.
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Posted: 2003-07-31 11:31:00
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