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It seems quite strange everyone is blaming the USA for this when just the other day The United States voted in favor of a U.N. Security Council resolution urging Israel to withdraw its troops from Palestinian cities including Ramallah.
I do not agree with SOME of the politics of the USA but....
I have a question from those who blame the USA...... since according to you they support and supply weapons to Isreal.
If I give you a gun, or you buy a gun from me and you go out and kill someone.... does that make ME responsable for that killing?
Well we can only hope for peace from both parties...... I love me T68 and T68i
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Posted: 2002-03-31 15:00:00
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Carajo...
Thats the most funny thing i've seen on this thread...
If i gave you a gun knowing full well that you were going to use it to kill someone then i am just as responsible....
Just think about Drug Dealers... cum on...
get real....
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Posted: 2002-03-31 16:00:00
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Look at what israelis are doing to palestenians then consider who is the terrorist...
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Posted: 2002-03-31 16:49:00
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Arafat is th terrorist!
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Posted: 2002-03-31 17:36:00
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Palestinians want war, israel if it to them!
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Posted: 2002-03-31 18:19:00
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First: this is by far the most interesting thread in Esato!!! Thanks, y'all!!
@blue ice: C'mon, it's not just Israel, I can place pics here showing what the Palestinians have done. Do you even have a TV? Suicide-bombs, NAIL-bombs, killing innocent women and children....
I have noticed that Israel is always in a defending position, while the Palestinians tend to ATTACK, I know this isn't 100% true, but I do believe it is the majority of the time, I think you all agree...
I have actually been to Israel in '97 and I thought it was wonderful, the Jewish people were so nice and hospitable! Most of them have a very calm, happy, enjoy-the-day kind of life! I made friends there and it was wonderful, while the Palestinians are a bit like the fundimentalists from Afghanistan.... I don't know if this is true for all of them, this is just the impression I got....
I just think: Israel is the only 'Jewish' country in the world, it's only 20,770 sq km. Can't the Jews just have this? Is that too much to ask? Catholics have Italy, Spain, South America....
Moslems have Saudi, Afghanistan, North-Africa....
Budists have Eastern Asia....
Leave SOMETHING for them....
Ok, thanks for listening (or reading
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Peace
[ This Message was edited by: arroyootje on 2002-03-31 19:14 ]
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Posted: 2002-03-31 18:31:00
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Why can't both the palestinians and the israelis understand that they can't keep up the killings?? It's really fundamental knowledge! You have to kids, one of them kicks the other kid and the other kid kicks back... Then the #1 kid have to kick back... Then the #2 kid have to kick back again... Then the # 1 kid... the #2 kid... the #1 kid.... the #.... Peace on earth! AND GROW UP!!!
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Posted: 2002-03-31 19:01:00
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On 2002-03-31 16:49, blue ice wrote:
Look at what israelis are doing to palestenians then consider who is the terrorist...
oh, please... you want pictures, i'll show you as many as you want (start by taking a look at (LINK REMOVED BY TEAM ESATO) and if that's not enough, just let me know and i'll give you plenty more pictures).
the fact is, israelis are getting blown up by terrorists every day (just today some 15 were killed in a restaurant in haifa, and a few more in two other separate terrorist attacks). who are the targets of these terrorists? women. children. babies. the elderly. and i did say TARGETS. they are specifically targeted for... what? what did the children that got blown to bits today do to deserve being specifically targeted?!?!
yes, when israel goes into the territories (as we now have) to do the job yasser arafat promised--but failed--to do, some innocent civilians sometimes get hurt (just like the thousands of innocent afghani civilians that got killed by american bombing in afghanistan). but that's not the AIM (as it is on the palestinian terrorist side). the aim is to get the TERRORISTS and their weapons and their bombs and (as was discovered today) their israeli currency counterfeiting machines. and it's not always easy to tell the "innocent civilians" from the terrorists, which was made very clear the day before yesterday when a huge quantity of explosives were discovered in a palestinian AMBULANCE. oh yeah, they had a perfectly healthy 8-year old boy playing sick and lying on top of the explosives to hide them. go figure.
[ This Message was edited by: tranquil on 2003-02-14 21:00 ]
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Posted: 2002-03-31 19:13:00
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On 2002-03-31 19:01, johanch wrote:
Why can't both the palestinians and the israelis understand that they can't keep up the killings?? It's really fundamental knowledge! You have to kids, one of them kicks the other kid and the other kid kicks back... Then the #1 kid have to kick back... Then the #2 kid have to kick back again... Then the # 1 kid... the #2 kid... the #1 kid.... the #.... Peace on earth! AND GROW UP!!!
how easy to say when you don't have another kid kicking you in the ass. let's just say you did, what would you do? turn the other [butt]cheek?
it's like 20/20 hindsight. soooooo easy to criticize when it doesn't involve yourself.
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Posted: 2002-03-31 19:16:00
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I know. I'm not very involved in this matter, but I still can have a opinion, don't you think? They have to understand that it will be no peace if they continue to kick eachothers ass... Is it really so hard for the palestinians and the israelis to live together? 5 years ago, my class got vistiors from Israel. It was some palestinian and israeli students that came to Norway and told us about their lives. They studied together and live together in the campus. So it's proven that palestinians and israelis CAN live side by side! Why can't you all just lay your weapons down and be friends?
If I were an alien and sat in the space and looked down on what was going on there... I think I would be a little bit confused.... We are all the same! We are humans! It's just that we live in different places on the globe, got different skincolor, talks different languages, different cultures, but we are all still HUMANS! Why are we fighting against ourselfs???? The alien had been really confused...
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Posted: 2002-03-31 19:25:00
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