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caff Posts: > 500

Its way too wide and need 2 hands to hold and use it .............forget it !
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Posted: 2003-09-24 16:28:19
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GoH Posts: 400

im never gonna figure out how someone is gonna put this to his ear for a call. its doggone squarish. and it looks like a mutated almond.
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Posted: 2003-09-24 16:35:24
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Superluminova Posts: > 500

this looks like a concept phone to me, just the design having fun, if nokia sell this model, i'll be very surprised, but then again nokia do sell so strange looking phones?
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Posted: 2003-09-24 17:13:19
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Flying Finn Posts: > 500

Should have an MMC slot btw. I can't wait to see the other colour options.
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Posted: 2003-09-24 22:25:00
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nephilim Posts: 106

Maybe it comes with a strap. Then mount it on one's forehead ...
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Posted: 2003-09-25 10:15:31
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lazarini Posts: > 500

Omg ! Have they gone blody bananas i woudent be caught alive with that thing in my pocket ;-) This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2003-09-25 10:55:56
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Super G Posts: > 500

It was just launched today.
Leather covers are nice

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Posted: 2003-09-25 12:19:54
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dragontrumpetare Posts: 231

Can it make Videocalls? I thought 3G was mostly about the possbility to see the one you talked too? Well not only that of course, but that wasnt possible in the 2G and 2,5G net. And what I can tell just about looking at it, that shouldnt be possible at all, beause its lacks the second camera. In sweden our only 3G operator wouldnt even consider this as a 3G phone. For me it more or less seems like a GSM phone with the ability to use the 3G net ( Mostly a triple band). Not like the Nec, Motorola and SONY ERICSSON Z1010 that actually is 3Gphone with the possibility to use GSM. Especially Z1010 that even can use 2,5G and not only 2G. In a way Z1010 is a 4thbands phone. ( Handle 800/1800/1900/3G). NOkia is a triple band (800/1800/3G). I think NOKia should go back to school or the writing table and do their homework all over again. This is a bad phone. Okey in the GSM net, but as a VCDMAphone ( Was that correct?) then it aint nothing to buy at all. Its like a 6600.
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Posted: 2003-09-25 12:52:43
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Super G Posts: > 500

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On 2003-09-24 16:03:54, fijbert wrote:
not even triband
talk about crap



Right... No triband GSM. That's a bad point.
The SE Z1010 doesn't have it either.

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On 2003-09-25 12:52:43, dragontrumpetare wrote:
Can it make Videocalls? I thought 3G was mostly about the possbility to see the one you talked too? Well not only that of course, but that wasnt possible in the 2G and 2,5G net. And what I can tell just about looking at it, that shouldnt be possible at all, beause its lacks the second camera. In sweden our only 3G operator wouldnt even consider this as a 3G phone. For me it more or less seems like a GSM phone with the ability to use the 3G net ( Mostly a triple band). Not like the Nec, Motorola and SONY ERICSSON Z1010 that actually is 3Gphone with the possibility to use GSM. Especially Z1010 that even can use 2,5G and not only 2G. In a way Z1010 is a 4thbands phone. ( Handle 800/1800/1900/3G). NOkia is a triple band (800/1800/3G). I think NOKia should go back to school or the writing table and do their homework all over again. This is a bad phone. Okey in the GSM net, but as a VCDMAphone ( Was that correct?) then it aint nothing to buy at all. Its like a 6600.



Z1010 doesnt have GSM 1900 sorry...

"Being" a 3G phone does NOT mean having videocall functionality. I personally doubt very much that operators will be able to provide satisfactory videocall functionality especially at the early start of their 3G networks. Look at it from a GSM user perspective. GSM coverage is very good and you can have a good voice call almost anywhere (except in US, where it is really bad. E.g. blocking is so bad there). Well, anyone's expectations as to using GSM are high. Now, how can you explain to your mother that she can't get videocall when she leaves downtown areas? In practice this is what will happen. You may get sufficient bitrates where 3G coverage is very good and network load is reasonable (Vodafone claimed about 60kbps average in London area...), but elsewhere forget it. Also the 3GGSM handover will practically prevent videocall from operating correctly. As soon as you hand off to GSM, you loose your video... Users would be extremely happy.

In a few years time, yes videocalls might become casual (although they failed on wireline phones. People never simply bought the idea) if 3G takes off well and networks get fully operating. But betting on videocalls as THE 3G functionality to market at the birth of 3G networks is in my mind a very risky business, because if operators can't (and they can't) offer as good service quality as what people are used to with GSM, people will simply not go for it or said otherwise who would pay for it?

Well, that's my opinion


[ This Message was edited by: Super G on 2003-09-25 12:28 ]
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Posted: 2003-09-25 13:04:04
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orange Posts: 397

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On 2003-09-25 13:04:04, Super G wrote:

Z1010 doesnt have GSM 1900 sorry...

"Being" a 3G phone does NOT mean having videocall functionality. I personally doubt very much that operators will be able to provide satisfactory videocall functionality especially at the early start of their 3G networks. Look at it from a GSM user perspective. GSM coverage is very good and you can have a good voice call almost anywhere (except in US, where it is really bad. E.g. blocking is so bad there). Well, anyone's expectations as to using GSM are high. Now, how can you explain to your mother that she can't get videocall when she leaves downtown areas? In practice this is what will happen. You may get sufficient bitrates where 3G coverage is very good and network load is reasonable (Vodafone claimed about 60kbps average in London area...), but elsewhere forget it. Also the 3GGSM handover will practically prevent videocall from operating correctly. As soon as you hand off to GSM, you loose your video... Users would be extremely happy.

In a few years time, yes videocalls might become casual (although they failed on wireline phones. People never simply bought the idea) if 3G takes off well and networks get fully operating. But betting on videocalls as THE 3G functionality to market at the birth of 3G networks is in my mind a very risky business, because if operators can't (and they can't) offer as good service quality as what people are used to with GSM, people will simply not go for it or said otherwise who would pay for it?

Well, that's my opinion


[ This Message was edited by: Super G on 2003-09-25 12:28 ]


I have to agree with SuperG...
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Posted: 2003-09-25 13:34:54
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