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so did the nokia 9110 communicator was before that even
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Posted: 2003-11-18 14:09:31
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wasnt this already discussed?
anywayz
in that other thread I am talkin about
someone said that they actually launched a plane with every seat containing a cellphone turned on, and nothing happened

I've been asked to turn off my calculator... so consider urselves lucky that u didnt hv that bit... I mean stewardess
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Posted: 2003-11-18 14:14:47
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Although I do find it very inconvenient not to be able to use my P900 (or P800 as the case once was) on a flight I don't think that its the end of the world. I use my P900 for busniness mostly and really time spent in an airplane could be spent more productively than drinking the free champagne and eating the free food, I just can't stand all that time wasting:) The worst part is that they have started to include massages in-flight too! Give me spreadsheets, documents that need read and speeches to prepare any day of the week
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Posted: 2003-11-18 17:04:35
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that incident happened to me also when i travelled to bangkok using lufthanza. they asked me to turn off my fone, even though i showed them that it's on a flight mode.

since that i don't want to cause any arguments and be the cause of the delay, i had no choice but to turn it off.
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Posted: 2003-11-18 17:35:48
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I wld hv lied and said it wasnt a phone
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Posted: 2003-11-18 19:38:47
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I understand airlines policy, but it's always boring when flight-crew ask me to switch off my pda and my walkman during take off/landing. Come on, It's non-communicate device :-( This message was posted from a T300
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Posted: 2003-11-18 22:46:13
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Is it called 'flight' mode for the very reason that you can use it during a FLIGHT, or for some other reason?
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Posted: 2003-11-19 07:29:40
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For some other reason.
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Posted: 2003-11-19 11:31:48
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Really? Surely not...
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Posted: 2003-11-19 11:33:46
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I can't get a signal in town, so there ain't a hope in hell 35,000ft up!

The following is taken from,
"P900/P908 White Paper, October 2003, Sony Ericsson, Page 73 -74"
Interesting sections to this post are from, 'Certification' onward, but I included the rest beacuse I couldn't be botherd cutting it.


Flight Mode

What is Flight Mode?
GSM or Bluetooth radio signals from a mobile phone may be harmful to the safe operation of an aircraft.
Flight mode is a special mode of the P900/P908 in which the phone does not transmit such signals, but
allows the user to read and write information resident in the PDA part of the device.

How it works
1) Ordering the phone into or out of Flight Mode can be done in two different ways:
• From the Power Button
• From the Status bar signal strength icon
2) When going into Flight Mode
• The radio signal strength indicator, RSSI changes into a red circular Stop Symbol
• The radio transmitters for both GSM and Bluetooth are switched off
• The operator name is changed into "Flight Mode"
3) While in Flight Mode:
• The phone does not emit any intended radio signals
• Unintentional signals caused by the electronics in the phone are at a similar level to other consumer
electronic devices and do not exceed levels stated in FCC part 15, or EN550022.
• The phone can not by itself leave the Flight Mode.
4) When leaving the Flight Mode:
• The red circular Stop Symbol once again changes into the normal radio signal strength indicator, RSSI
• The radio transmitters for both GSM and Bluetooth are switched on
• The text "Flight Mode" is changed into an operator name

Certification
The above facts are hereby stated and certified by us, the manufacturer, Sony Ericsson Mobile
Communications AB, located in Stockholm, Sweden. There is no certificate from any independent
certification authority.

Flight attendants
It is important that flight attendants learn how to recognize:
• What phones is Flight Mode capable
• That the phone is in the Flight Mode stage
We recommend that no devices be switched on during take-off and landing.

Regulatory
Currently, the FAA has issued a document, USE OF PORTABLE ELECTRONIC DEVICES ABOARD
AIRCRAFT, stipulating how airlines should handle these devices.
The document is due for a make-over, probably by the end of 2003.

The EUROCAE (European Organization for Civil Aviation Equipment) released a document WG-58 (Working
Group-58) that outlines tests and PED evaluation aboard European aircraft.

Standardization
It is the opinion of Sony Ericsson, that:
• Flight Mode ought to be standardized. Suitable bodies for this may be the FAA, IATA etc. Both the user
interface and the procedures should be standardized.
• No new radio emission standards need to be set up for Flight Mode. Instead, existing standards should
be applied; e. g. FCC part 15, or ETSI EN550022.

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Posted: 2003-11-20 00:49:42
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