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On 2004-04-02 19:14:55, Vlammetje wrote:
Not necessarily poor countries really. A country like Ireland has definitely been able to benefit economically from EU membership
and they're not really all that poor are they?
In any case.... if other countries ahve all the wealth they need... might as well have the neighbours benefit as well imho........ in the long run it will help develop a stronger and equal relationship
Ireland is actually before Sweden now in the "wellfare"-league.
So much for the "social-democrats" aye?!
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Posted: 2004-04-07 06:14:32
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It seems 2 me this thread isn't dead. Thanks to u, guys.
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Posted: 2004-04-07 15:23:00
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Who should have the leader position in eu? I hope germany, france and hopefully the uk, if they want to join us.
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Posted: 2004-04-07 15:34:44
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On 2004-04-07 15:34:44, bobafett wrote:
Who should have the leader position in eu? I hope germany, france and hopefully the uk, if they want to join us.
Now there's one of the main problems. No country should be leader!
All decisions should be democratic.
I'm not confortable with, for instance, Schröder making decisions that affect my country (Portugal).
What does he know about Portugal? Our way of life? Our problems?
That why an European comission exists, with representatives of all countries who make other's to know their country's problems.
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Posted: 2004-04-07 15:45:09
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Leader position should take EU congress not any single country. Thats what I think and feel. What about 2 speak roaming in Europeans countries. We should call from all EU country without extra (high) charge !
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Posted: 2004-04-07 15:46:43
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U are right in case of the european parlament, but there will be leading countries aswell, depending on industry and economy.
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Posted: 2004-04-07 16:16:15
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Krubach is right, the last months ( maybe years ) France and Germany and some times UK have those meetings together without the rest of the EU. They takes decisions for all the rest of the "small" countries.
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Posted: 2004-04-07 16:28:22
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Rather they than the usa or for me as an eastern europian the russians.
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Posted: 2004-04-07 16:30:30
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I'm sorry bobba, but i think i didn't get the spirit of the EU yet, or what's it all about for that matter...
If the EU is really united on common goals there's no way the US or Russia make decisions for us. Now, if the UK supports the US and France and Germany criticise it (take this as UK leadership or France/Germany leadership), the the EU is not REALLY united, and it will just fall apart.
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Posted: 2004-04-07 16:38:29
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the EU is in no way united at all. Every country stands for their OWN interests and not for any sort of common interest.
I too strongly oppose the idea of Germany, France and the UK running the show. The UK because they're not part of the monetary union and have therefore different financial interests. Also UK foreign politics do not get large support on the European mainland. I'd hate UK politics even more than i already hate our own national politics.
France unfortunately has proven over and over again that it values it's own interests much much higher than anybody elses... so they should not run this show.
And history proves that France and Germany cannot last a century without waging war on one another so no thanks.... I'll have no part in it.
I am a rather big fan of local politics simply because the situation in my country is not the same as the situation say in Poland or in Portugal or Italy.
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Posted: 2004-04-07 16:46:24
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