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http://ripkord.myby.co.uk/Settings.vcf
save target as, and open Virtual Dub.
File > Load processing settings > browse to wherever you saved the file.
Audio Volume is set to 200% (might be a little loud on some clips)
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Posted: 2004-07-12 18:05:07
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On 2004-07-12 17:00:00, Happen wrote:
PV player can muster nothing worth while its a waste of time i couldn never watch anything in that small screen to small and jerky i feel sorry for big feat..
edit: 2.5mb per minute in mp4 format is just plain wrong and silly on a p900!
[ This Message was edited by: Happen on 2004-07-12 16:41 ]
You feel sorry for me? For what? I suppose you think you know all the secrets even though you probably haven't been doing this for long. However, I'm glad you continue to talk about how great you have things working, but apparently no one has seen any evidence. I'm not even sure if you had a P800 at the time or have bothered reading through the posts since you haven't been on the P800/P900 forum for long. You might want to do a search on this thread to read feedbacks of what I have been able to do since February of 2003 even on a P800. Moreover, you should read member comments on what they thought of the quality of work for over a year now. At any rate, have you tried clicking the link in my sig? You might find it interesting that I have 4 working formats for each file in which 3 happen to be formatted to be playable on a P800/P900. You have to remember SM is a private developer so the majority of Pxxx owners play their media through the OEM player. With that said, if you concentrate all your efforts on encoding to SM you will have a tough time convincing plp to pay for a player when they can play good quality stuff through a free player. If you have issues with PV or any other software then I'm guessing your really don't know what your doing. Encoding comes down to understanding the mathematics of what is possible and having the right tools. Believe me I have had access to the right tools for 11 years now. I still have a couple SCSII DVD burners I purchased for my business in 1999. I'm sure you never even knew what a DVD burner was back then. I'd like to see what you can do with 2hrs of media on a Pxxx. I had the pleasure of sharing a 2hr video with several members on this board in the Summer of 2003. What were you able to do back then? As I stated before, good to know you think you're the only one with SM....
Full Length (non-segmented) 90min - 130min Files Available in 3 Formats (3gp,mp4,diVx) all on 1 128mb Duo Card.
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Posted: 2004-07-12 21:28:57
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Well I DO know what I'm doing and I prefer not having to convert to mp4 before I upload files to my phone.
Loads of people prefer SM to PV, fact of the matter is...
With the same settings with regards to bitrate, size, audio and framerate, videos on SM play smoother than PV.
If you can prove me wrong then, please go right ahead and encode me a 320x208 movie that plays smoothly on PV.
Yeah Im sure PV is ok if your using smaller files but I prefer full screen video and its not the best thing for that.
Edit - oh and tell me how to do it
[ This Message was edited by: ripkord on 2004-07-12 22:10 ]
[ This Message was edited by: ripkord on 2004-07-12 22:15 ]
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Posted: 2004-07-12 22:57:03
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On 2004-07-12 22:57:03, ripkord wrote:
Well I DO know what I'm doing and I prefer not having to convert to mp4 before I upload files to my phone.
Loads of people prefer SM to PV, fact of the matter is...
With the same settings with regards to bitrate, size, audio and framerate, videos on SM play smoother than PV.
If you can prove me wrong then, please go right ahead and encode me a 320x208 movie that plays smoothly on PV.
Yeah Im sure PV is ok if your using smaller files but I prefer full screen video and its not the best thing for that.
Edit - oh and tell me how to do it
[ This Message was edited by: ripkord on 2004-07-12 22:10 ]
[ This Message was edited by: ripkord on 2004-07-12 22:15 ]
Were you talking to me? I don't think I addressed you in this thread at all unless you also own the user name 'Happen'. At any rate, although I'm not sure if you were addressing me I want to make a point in regards to your post. There are 3 important factors you must consider. 1. Medium Capacity 2.Optimal Output 3.Feasibility. With that said, you have to consider how to encode at least 2hrs worth of media into a 128mb max capacity medium that is playable through any Pxxx. I don't understand your point in how you obtain your output being that you are doing it with open source software. I have SM and other diVx tools. I personally think your outputs are fine, but again can you really share your content with 'any' Pxxx user? To insert an analogy here, imagine that you only burn all your media content on a DVD+R disc and want to share your masterpiece. The majority of DVD player owners have dvds that only play DVD-R,DVD-Video because it is most common as an industry standard. With that said, if you wanted to share your content with x number of plp chances are you'd find a large percentage of plp that would have to Pay for another player that can play DVD+R discs. I use that analogy because several PC manufacturers market their systems with DVD+R writers. It's a dumb move for anyone to buy one being that there is only a minute chance that their home players can play what they burn.
To expand on my point of feasibility of play, a poster on this thread did have reserves about SM because they simply didn't want to purchase the program. That shows that feasibility is limited to only owners that are willing to pay extra. From all the forums and I am a member of it seems that a lot of owners are not willing to purchase software despite the fact that they might have paid a lot for their Pxxx or especially if they already have something that can do the job. I have had plp beg me and others for stuff because they simply want things for free. So I am positive that if you were to poll this and every other forum with Pxxx users and asked how many plp paid or were willing to pay for an external media player/encoder (specifically SM) I'm sure you'd find the percentage under 10% if at best. So the demographic for SM users is extremely low simply for the fact that the software is not free. That's the bottom line. Just to let you know there have been other diVx type of players developed for the Pxxx (check my-symbian) that just never were sold because the developers didn't have a platform to support a large number of consumers. If you look at the pics I posted you'll notice that all screen sizes are not the same even for the stuff playable through the OEM player. You'll notice I have SM and I use the PV player. I've been doing this for a long time and have unlimited no issue with obtaining resources so don't assume I'm out of the loop on anything. There is no secret, the only thing standing in the way of most is the price of the software they are not willing to pay for.
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[ This Message was edited by: BigFeat on 2004-07-12 23:55 ]
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cant be bothered to read your essays mate been doing this for time i have been using PV player and maximised performance on both platforms P800 and P900 i was for a long time using Camcoder app it was much better than PV player and free.
SM is great who cares if it costs £13 i am not a tramp i encode for my self not others your just talking crap your sites a farce whats with your i dont trust the host crap and will upload it to my new server bull crap going for like a year now.
I want the best from my device not just crap that the PV player gives me i have the opportunity to achieve this
i wont put a gay logo on them and dont judge me by not doing this long cos i just registered i have been here in other forms even before you made up you got a p900.
You obviously are happy with squashed pictures this is why i feel sorry for you and all other p800 / p900 users stuck with vids like yours
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Posted: 2004-07-13 01:23:31
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Good for you. You have something I can never have...
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B I G F E A T E N T E R T A I N M E N T[ This Message was edited by: BigFeat on 2004-07-13 00:38 ]
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Posted: 2004-07-13 01:36:49
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Hey if you dont want to get the best out of the p900s media abilities i respect that as long as your aware what your doing is old and out dated.
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Posted: 2004-07-13 01:39:51
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On 2004-07-13 01:39:51, Happen wrote:
Hey if you dont want to get the best out of the p900s media abilities i respect that as long as your aware what your doing is old and out dated.
Ok. Tell that to the 34 Esato members on my server. Tell them I can't produce anything like that and that it's crap. Tell plp to stop emailing and PMing for stuff because obviously you have the only knowledge and tools to produce vid media with 320x280 screen display and that I have never achieved that. Stop using old stuff as examples. Especially content that I find around the corner in my video retail store and that I've already posted on Esato over a year ago. Dime a dozen material footage.
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[ This Message was edited by: BigFeat on 2004-07-13 00:50 ]
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Posted: 2004-07-13 01:45:54
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what they dont know about they cant ask about my friend think about it......just think about it.
Most people dont even believe the p900 can play a full movie but if you give them a MP4 movie converted at say 50K bit rate and 10k bit rate for audio they dont know any better they will be like my god this is awsome.
This is what i say to the people on your servers....
open your eyes
It doesent matter what movie i use to example my work that doesent matter as all vob's and avi's finnish life like the stuff shown in my examples.
[ This Message was edited by: Happen on 2004-07-13 01:00 ]
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Posted: 2004-07-13 01:51:13
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So what's your point? No one is doubting the technical capabilities of encoding devices and the results it can produce on a P900. Your post has been echoed a long time ago by several others and even me on Esato. I'm sure new users might be suprised, but their are a lot of veterans on this forum and elsewhere that are not in awe. This is not a new revelation. If you have an agenda to dispell everyone elses work then you might concentrate on convincing millions of Pxxx owners to purchase a player that is not absolutely necessary to play video media. From some of the threads I've been reading so far on Esato very few still have SM and I understand why $$.. I don't think you have a firm understanding with what most consumers are content with when they are not willing to pay.
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Posted: 2004-07-13 02:01:33
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