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hmmm, i think santo911 is just trying to start a flame war or something

From what i know the wap page is a file that is transferred to your phone, and it shouldn't matter what network you're on, because it's just data.
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Posted: 2004-10-15 08:32:00
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Jup. :-) I would love a flame war :D This message was posted from a Z1010
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Posted: 2004-10-15 08:54:50
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Let me see if I can help here!

Some of you are right - the data transferred from the WAP site to the phone really does not matter. WAP 1.2 or WAP 2.0 the data is pretty much the same and a phone with a WAP 2.0 browser will be able to interpret and display either.

The difference comes in how the pages get from the site to the phone.

With WAP 1.2 your phone contacts a WAP gateway (using port 9201 I think), the gateway GETs the page from the WAPsite, translates it into a compact binary format and sends it to the phone.

WAP 2.0 uses a plain Proxy server (port 8080 normally). I cannot remember if thts proxy server translates the pages or just sends them on.

So the end result is that if you use a phone like a 6600/7610 etc that only supports WAP 2.0 - and your local network does NOT supply a Proxy server for it to use, then you could have problems!

That is not to say it cannot work - I presume all that is required is for someone (the local network provider?) to provide a suitable proxy server for the phones to use.

Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong anywhere here!
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Posted: 2004-10-15 09:20:26
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That sounds right, but my phone has wap 2.0 still I use a wap gate way port 9201. Also when I connect to vodafone live, it uses port 9201. So my guess is: all phones except nokia with wap 2.0 also support earlier versions.
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Posted: 2004-10-15 10:03:48
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Both of you are right. I forgot about the proxy :P setting the phone to use the halebop or ericsson wap gateway should fix the problem i guess. I had some problem with my wap when i had to t68 and it wap fixed by changing the usuall network ip to the ericsson wap gateway ip. :-) hope this helps. This message was posted from a Z1010
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Posted: 2004-10-15 18:52:17
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how can that be? if it has wap2.0 support, it must have wap1.2.1 support.... someting if not quite rite....
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Posted: 2004-10-15 21:58:12
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what mwright say is correct, WAP 2.0 is actually WAP over HTTP proxy and if the network provider did not upgrade their network to support this, some phone that only supports WAP 2.0 (such as the Nokia 6600, Nokia 6230, 7610, 6220 etc ) will not work.

This had happened before in Australia, when the 6600 have just been launch, a lot of people cannot connect to wap. The "G" icon would keep spinning on the phone (indicating an active pdp session) but the wap page could never load because the network was not supporting it yet


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Posted: 2004-10-16 06:53:31
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Thats why i suggested the wap gateway change. This message was posted from a Z1010
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Posted: 2004-10-16 08:47:21
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But the protocols are different!

WAP using the wap gateway (9201) uses a different protocol than using an HTTP proxy to port 8080.

Therefore changing the proxy address/port on a WAP 2.0 phone will not work. I tested it yesterday and it did not work!
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Posted: 2004-10-16 11:34:04
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But he wants to use wap1.2.1 ...... This message was posted from a Z1010
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Posted: 2004-10-16 11:53:40
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