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Jools Posts: > 500

@nickorooster:

I'm not sure where you're getting the specs for the Zen Micro and iPod mini from, but according to the manufacturers web-sites the iPod mini is smaller than the Zen:

iPod mini: 3.6" x 2.0" x 0.5" (= 3.6" cubic area) and 3.6 ounces in weight
Zen Micro: 2.0" x 3.3" x 0.7" (= 4.62" cubic area) and 3.8 ounces in weight


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Posted: 2004-11-23 14:57:27
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Caveman Posts: 168

What about an Archos Gmini ? I think there's a 40GB model available for around £250.
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Posted: 2004-11-23 15:08:16
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pride2010 Posts: 35

After searching around for a suitable top-spec MP3 player I settled for the iRiver H340 - got it the other day and am very impressed - 40GB and 16hours playback (up to 50hours with additional battery pack). If anyone is interested I would go for the international model rather than the US model as it has a cradle and basic remote and USB2GO (which the US one doesnt).

Very pleased with my iRiver !!!!
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Posted: 2004-11-23 15:21:02
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Superluminova Posts: > 500

cheers for the images mate it looks great, i want one now! lol

also the ipod mini may not have the best spec or be the best value for money but if you want cool design with easy of use its prefect, this is why my lady wants it for her birthday.

so i think i might be turning into a mac fan!
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Posted: 2004-11-23 16:01:52
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50Cent Posts: > 500



just look at it...looks so much better than ipod/s
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Posted: 2004-11-23 16:06:44
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Jools Posts: > 500

Obviously that depends on whether you are able to appreciate good design or not!!!




As a designer, I know which I prefer!!
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Posted: 2004-11-23 16:10:33
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Jools Posts: > 500

iPod wins Danish People's Design Award
iPod wins 'Gold' in Japan's 'Good Design Awards'
iPod Packaging Wins Design Distinction Award
iPod Designer wins Design Museum's inaugural Designer of the Year award
Apple wins D&AD Gold Award, the pinnacle of creative achievement for Apple iPod
iPod wins Best Internet Audio Device award
iPod ads win Cannes Lions Award
Apple iPod interactive award nominee
iPod Mini wins Editor’s Choice award at CNET

Bored now... can't be arsed to link in all the others... but you get the idea...

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Posted: 2004-11-23 16:27:25
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50Cent Posts: > 500

ok ok, lol its just IMO

take a look

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Posted: 2004-11-23 16:29:20
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Jools Posts: > 500

That's an interesting article, and does raise some (fairly) valid points. But here's my take on his points:

1st issue - Batteries
I've just (on Saturday) bought my second iPod after using the previous for 2 years and 3 months. And the battery in that one is still going strong. As far as replacing them goes, companies offer a 48-hour replacement service for extra high capacity batteries for around £30. Not a big problem IMO.

2nd issue - Multiple computers and multiple iPods
Firstly, no sensible person only has one copy of any important file (music or otherwise), so if he'd backed-up his music like any sensible person would, he'd have no reason to want to copy music off his iPod. Any anyway, there are dozens of free utilities that do that easily. (My fave is Senuti). The reason Apple stop you transferring music from the iPod is to try to prevent you from giving all your mates your music for free, just by plugging your iPod into their computer.

Also, if he has 40gb of music, why would he buy a 4gb iPod mini then complain about its capacity?

3rd issue - Quality
As I said above, my first iPod, over 2 years old, is still going strong, and I've never had a single problem with it. Nor has any of my friends with iPods. Maybe we've been lucky. Maybe he's just been unlucky or he doesn't take good care of his stuff! Anything you buy will suffer wear and tear with use. But saying that I've managed to keep my 2 year old iPod pretty scratch free, just by taking care of it. That's the same with mobile phones, cameras or any shiny electronic item. They're gonna get damaged if you don't put them in a case, or care for them.

4th issue - Apple going-it-alone
This I do (mostly) agree with, which is why I've only bought 2 tracks from the iTunes Music Store. What happens if Apple go bust (unlikely), and you've bought all your music in their format? Ok, so at least, unlike other rivals, their music won't stop playing if Apple cease to exist, but you won't be able to play it on other devices (probably). I still buy CDs (from CD-Wow for £8-ish) so I've always got a pristine quality original to re-rip if I ever need to.

But I guess this issue applies to other formats too, not just Apple's.

Just my 50 cents worth!!!
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Posted: 2004-11-23 17:07:28
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Superluminova Posts: > 500

with all dew respect, that thing just doesn't have the style or quality of any of todays ipods designs
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Posted: 2004-11-23 19:27:33
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