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some people think that if something is written down in letters, it has to be true.

i believe this conspiracy theory. just like i buy herbal viagra via email and help that poor fellow in that poor country get his millions of dollars to a swiss bank account. i also win a lot of money and products, in fact i get a winning notification every day.
oh, and i like the fact that donna and barbara are very eager to meet me, because they sent me an email about how they want to have hot sex with me.

(where's the rolle-eye-smiley when you need it?)
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Posted: 2005-01-19 07:24:47
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Uh-oh, here we go again!

@mores, to you mean this smiley?
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Posted: 2005-01-19 07:28:30
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ok i admit it i planned the whole thing
IT WAS MEEEE
NOT OSAMA BUT MEEEE
HOW CAN HE TAKE THE CREDIT FOR THIS EVIL GENIUS OF A PLAN WHEN HE CANT EVEN OPERATE AN ELECTRIC SHAVER!!!!
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Posted: 2005-01-19 07:51:05
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On 2005-01-19 03:06:52, axxxr wrote:
I would'nt trust the yanks on anything..If they can lie in front of the world at the U.N can they really be trusted on anything?


this is what i love about conspiresy theories if you dont like the counter argument you can just fall back on the good old they are lieing thoery.
one question for everyone who thinks its a conspirsey how many people do you think would be involved in covering it up. if you look at the kennnedy assisination no more than 12 people would have to be involved thus making it easier to keep quiet. in the case you would need well over a hundred people to be involoved i aiint sure that you are gonna keep that many quiet from viaroius govemnent and civilian offices just a thought
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Posted: 2005-01-19 09:46:32
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Actually, I DID think that the pentagon was a bit odd on the day that it actually hit, i saw the news reports, and I DID think that there should be some plane-esque wreckage. But, I do believe that the other planes were legitamit (spelling?) and that something bad DID happen at the pentagon (that much is obvious) but I also saw the holes way back when and was amazed that a 757 could have punched through it that neatly...

But anyways, make up your own mind.

Nick
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Posted: 2005-01-19 12:38:04
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Yeah back in business. Conspiracy theories sucks especially that french guy who launched everything cause what most don't think about is that he made alot of money on this tragic event by selling his conspiracy books. Shame on him !!!!!
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Posted: 2005-01-19 16:23:36
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the thing is i dont beleive any pictures, they can easily be manipulated,

videos are harder to edit, so untill i see at least one video of the boeing 757 going into the pentagon, there is over 150 cameras in the pentagon and they couldnt even film a plane coming in, thats what i mean,

a lot of people died at 911, but bush has started two wars with on CONSPIRACY THEORIES, still waiting for evidence, there is still no evidence, why?

and way more innocent people have died, for nothing in afganistan and iraq, i know hussain was a tyrant but but there is no need to kill so many people. Americans all voted against the war, even here in England, but they still went along with it,
they dont give you a choice

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Posted: 2005-01-19 23:56:31
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Mominislam:

I so agree with your points...Majority of the world just wants to accept the official line that it all happened the way they told us,and there was no cover up..It always cracks me up when they say a boeing struck the pentagon (Only the most secure buildings in america)dozens of camera's dotted around the building at every single angle and yet there is no real surveilance footage,only one piece of highly questionable footage was ever released...I mean come on people do you honestly buy that?..Until and unless they release every piece of last surveilance footage from the pentagon site this conspiracy theory will have credibility!
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Posted: 2005-01-20 01:51:34
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On 2005-01-19 23:56:31, MominIslam wrote:
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the thing is i dont beleive any pictures, they can easily be manipulated,

videos are harder to edit, so untill i see at least one video of the boeing 757 going into the pentagon, there is over 150 cameras in the pentagon and they couldnt even film a plane coming in, thats what i mean,


Are videos really that hard to edit? Come on, that's very dodgy ground you're on there - where there's a will to promote propaganda, there is usually a way! And can you not see some fairly obvious reasons for the contents of the confiscated video-tapes being kept under wraps? If the only people whose interests it is in for this to be shown are the conspiracy theorists, I hardly think that provides sufficient motivation for the US government to sanction it. Do you know what is on the tapes anyway? Assuming you are not party to such information, how do you know there is evidence being covered up? Also, is it not possible that the purpose of your "150 cameras" is not to peruse the skies looking for falling aircraft??!

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a lot of people died at 911, but bush has started two wars with on CONSPIRACY THEORIES, still waiting for evidence, there is still no evidence, why?


There is evidence - eye-witness accounts for one (or have they been bribed by the CIA?) And the Iraq War was not started as a DIRECT result of 9/11. In fact, you conspiracy theorists also seem to think that the motivation for the removal of Saddam was Bush Jr settling an old score for Daddy. You want it both ways? Funny how you don't hear the families of the victims crying conspiracy, isn't it? I bet that they're glad that they can't be left to grieve in peace because you lot are doing it for them, though - good work fella!

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and way more innocent people have died, for nothing in afganistan and iraq, i know hussain was a tyrant but but there is no need to kill so many people. Americans all voted against the war, even here in England, but they still went along with it,
they dont give you a choice


There was no referendum on the either war in either country mentioned. I don't think you could argue that innocent lives were taken intentionally, once the decision to go to war was taken, though of course that it is a terrible consequence of any war. The government represent the people, my friend, and Bush the Tyrant has just been voted in for another term by the people who "didn't have choice" - they certainly did this time. Even Michael Moore's not arguing this election result! And Blair will most likely win a second term as well, so I think that puts paid to your point that they are not exercising the will of the people.

But the thing about conspiracy theorists is that they never go away - they keep trying in spite of their theories having holes the size of small countriesin them, because there is always another agenda, be it financial, religious or political. The French author who wrote the book (literally) on this theory has made his financial gains, and I hope you will forgive me guessing that your motivation is religious.

I just think that you are entitled to believe whatever it is you want to believe, but don't try and force it on others. We have all heard it all before, and are perfectly capable of making up our own minds, without having the same tired theories thrust into our faces again and again and again.

Q:What's the problem with people making up their own minds?

A:They might not agree with you!
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Posted: 2005-01-20 02:49:38
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Pardon me for speaking out in favour of the conspiracy theorists, but I have yet to see a single photograph which shows any plane remains at the crash site. All I have seen is a crater and a big hole in the building....but no sign of the plane wreckage itself !!

This is really puzzling, and I would actually be glad if someone knows an imagwe showing the plane wreckage itself.
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Posted: 2005-01-20 13:22:03
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