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*Jojo* Posts: > 500

Just a thought here. As I was watching CNN about last week, they made a special feature by interviewing George Lucas, the man behind the film. I was just so shocked to know that this fella is a SUPER rich individual now The merchandise sold by the Star Wars episodes raked the brilliant man some - US$ 6 Billion
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Posted: 2005-05-23 04:16:44
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Gigs Posts: > 500

Isn't SW something like an 18-23 Billion dollar franchise already?

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Posted: 2005-05-23 04:58:19
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

Spoliers Ahead!


@Gigs

Apparently the second Death Sar was already under construction before the the first three films (IV, V & VI), along with various other super weapons e.g. the Galaxy Gun.

It would have been quite amusing for Jackson to have uttered the words "I wills trike you down with ..."

Christensen's acting was really rather atrocious at certain points, making one wonder more about Lucas' competence as a director in allowing it. The line Anakin says when helping Obi-Wan after killing Count Dooku would have been better delivered by an arthritic postman with severe gout.

The 'lovey dovey' dialogue was back, although not at quite the same nauseating levels as in Episode II.

Am I the only one who thinks Lucas wasted a golden opportunity for a stunning piece of cinema in not showing mor eof the attack on the Jedi Temple? Where were the lighsaber duels between Anakin and the Jedi?

It is all too easy to criticise, but there are valid criticisms to be made. Having said that it was an excellent film, the points I mentioned are actually relatively minor when taken in context. The film really was astounding.

Some of the brighter spots that impressed me most were:

Palpatine - Ian McDiarmid was excellent as ever. The fight scenes were extremely well done and it was so good to see Palpatine being given something more to do than sit and cackle or stand and plot. McDiarmid's acting was arguably the best in the film.

Ewan McGregor has actually been rather good as Obi-Wan Kenobi and I very much enjoyed his performance in this film. He was obviously going for the Guinness aspect, a very difficult thing to do. I think McGregor did manage to pull it off, although with some difficulty in certain areas.

Yoda - there is nothing that can be said here except spiffing!

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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2005-05-23 11:10 ]
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Posted: 2005-05-23 05:29:43
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Gigs Posts: > 500

ROFL, if there were 2 death stars under construction that meant the emperor and darth were getting their own planet killers.. Thats what I call riding in style.

Yes more on the jedi academy going down would have been good.. I'm sure we'll have to play the game however. lol


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Posted: 2005-05-23 07:00:07
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gelfen Posts: > 500

**spoiler alert**

looks like i'm going to have to clear up some star wars lore:

the wookie planet is Kashyyk, not Rwoorkoo

yoda's relationship was with the wookies and their leadership, not chewie personally. however, it also explains why chewie readily accepted Luke as a Jedi when he and Solo have a history of being far more practical-minded.

"How could you not tell as a jedi something was wrong with Anakin"
same reason they didn't know abaout palpatine - jedi are taught to shield their thoughts from the probing of others. finding someone consumed with the dard side is not as simple as a telepathic probe of an individual (who would know about it anyway), but deducing who they are from their influence on the force and world around them. i also doubt "little Annie" was the first jedi to ever have doubts.

it actually took less than 20 years to build the Death Star, since Luke is still under 20 in A New Hope and it was already complete (if just barely). the second Death Star took more than 6 years to be not fully complete but still operational. construction began during, if not before, A New Hope. the difference in duration is pretty simple - technology advanced and they learned from the mistakes made in developing/constructing the first one.

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ok, i loved the film - loved how it tied up the major plot lines, loved all the little references and in-jokes to the original trilogy (both verbal and visual), loved the set piece "money shots".

i have to agree with most of the (minor) gripes, excepting those i explained above. still, corny dialogue is part of the star wars experience. if you really listen to what they're saying in the original trilogy it's not all that much better, but alec guinness and harrison ford can do a lot more with dodgy lines than most.

if there were some things i would have liked it would be the following (some of which others have said):

yoda to not seem quite so unfeeling when instructing Anakin to "let go". i know he has a history of telling people to let their friends die, but it was handled better in Empire. just a little more conventional sentence structure wouldn't have hurt either.

some sort of explanation of palpatine's disfigurement. i already knew what caused it, but the implication has always been long-term use of and exposure to the dark side rather than a short but overwhelming burst of dark energies.

less implied and more overt violence on the part of anakin, just to cement the level of betrayal and outright evil. add to that some butt-kicking and obvious growth in power while in the vader suite - even if it had to be fully CGI'd.

anyway, these are all pretty much small-time quibbles compared to the overall experience. it's the first time watching the tv ads made me want to see a film after already seeing it. lucky for me i promised to take my dad along next weekend!



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[ This Message was edited by: gelfen on 2005-05-23 09:46 ]
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Posted: 2005-05-23 10:27:35
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SPOILERS!

This movie has the most scariest, most evil word i've heard... it sents chills down my spine when the Sith said "Gooooodd....." to Anakin when he accepts the Sith as his master. Scene when Anakin helped to kill Mace Windo.
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Posted: 2005-05-23 11:18:56
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

Spoliers Ahead!

@gelfen

Yoda's advice to Anakin was actually very much in keeping with the philosophies that 'the Force' is based upon e.g. Taoism, Confucism, Buddhism, etc. I thought that scene was rather good in that it showed the extent of Yoda's wisdom and compassion. Yoda offered Anakin compassion by telling him the truth whilst Palpatine offered nothing but cruelty by promising him false hope.

Incidentally, if Anakin had taken Yoda's advice it is likely that Padme would have lived, the visions Anakin had were self-fulfilling once he had turned to the dark side, ironically to prevent those visions from becoming reality.
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Posted: 2005-05-23 12:17:04
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Lucas taken the world famous quote from the Muslim culture.

"May the force be with you" - Jedi
"May peace be upon you" = Assalamualaikum - Islam

hehe... everytime they say that it just rings in my head.. about the Islam way of greeting.
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Posted: 2005-05-23 13:39:16
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@02

You may be correct, but I was under the impresison that Taosim and Confucism were the main inspirations behind the Force and the Jedi.
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Posted: 2005-05-23 13:57:15
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@scotsboyuk
yea that might be true aswell... Lucas might taken abit of everything in the culture we live in..
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Posted: 2005-05-23 14:58:20
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