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On 2019-10-24 13:02:17, moogoo wrote:
@Supa_Fly
you're asking for a lot. yes, i think sony needs to return to the crazy innovation days, but sony neither has the money or resources to do that. Especially in mobile. Maybe it's japanese thinking or whatever, but it seems pretty clear to me that they do not want to take their high end products from other divisions (audio/photo) and put them inside a smartphone. they'll stick in re-branded "mobile" versions and claim that they do the same things, but we all know that hasn't been the case.
as for bundling top accessories, they did offer the WH-1000XM3 with preorder of the x1 in a lot of countries, though not all.
like you, i wish for the return of sony innovation. but the sad truth is that sony limits themselves in a lot of ways and are quite content at targeting a niche market with overpriced devices instead of the global mass market with more reasonable prices. sony's always come with a premium price, but it's been a long time since many of their products, not just phones, has earned the right to demand their starting MSRP.
@Moogo ... well said mi amigo!
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Posted: 2019-10-25 02:45:35
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This is why I said.
Android 8 out of box is same of being shipped with android 7, but getting android 8 soon.
How is XZ1 supposed to get 10 when XZP is not?
They kinda did spare you from wasting time updating phone yourself.
Phones with same cpu get same updates.
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Posted: 2019-10-25 12:54:09
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No its not the same. Actually your sentence makes no sense.
It was shipped with andorid 8. It had nothing to do about android 7. Doesnt mather if previous ohone shipped with android 7.
Just one major update in a Hi end phone is ridicolous. Period. Stop defending the undefendable.
"They kinda did spare you from wasting time updating phone yourself"
Oh my....
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Posted: 2019-10-25 13:17:31
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Why should XZ1 earn 10 when XZP is not getting?
The fact is was 8.0 out of box did not make any difference.
It was going to have it anyway.
Xperia 5 has android 9. Will end up with 11.
If it was android 10 out of box, last update would be 11 too.
Because 1 will stop at 11.
Z/Z1 = 5.1.1
Z2/z3 = 6.0.1
Z4/z5 = 7.1.1
X Perf / XZ = 8.0
XZP/XZ1 = 9.0
Xz2/xz3 = 10.0
1/5 = 11.0
OnePlus 7T Pro android 10 out of box. While 7 Pro is not. They are not going to give more update to 7T over 7. Both will earn same.
Do you think if Note 10 had android 10 out of box it would go to android 12 while S10 remains android 11?
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Posted: 2019-10-25 15:14:12
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XZ Premium is a device. XZ1/XZ1C is another device.
XZ1 was launched after XZP. XZP got 2 major updates, XZ1 just one. both are hi end devices. Hi end devices always received 2 major updates, independently of whetever date they were actually launch. I hope you understand it now. Jesus...
And dont forget xz1 were release with project treable wich surely simplifies future updates.
Regarding Samsung devices, Yes it would, because bouth would get AT LEAST two major updates. The S10 COULD get android 12 but it would not be expected at least.
[ This Message was edited by: profyler on 2019-10-25 19:12 ]
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Posted: 2019-10-25 19:59:06
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How can you not understand this? XZ1/XZ1c/XZP are all Snapdragon 835 based devices. For Sony they are considered as being the same generation phones. It does not matter which came out earlier and which at a later date. There is no Android 10 update for Snapdragon 835 devices. Just accept it. Period.
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Posted: 2019-10-25 22:36:10
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Of course I will accept it. I cant change that. I just think its a ridiculous bad move
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Posted: 2019-10-25 23:51:10
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At least you have a XZ1 Compact. I'm on a Z5 Compact (with a cracked back panel which is "uneconomic to repair"). I don't see any compact phones on the horizon, anywhere. I don't like the 21:9 aspect ratio, more so at the current sizes. Even defection to iOS doesn't sound promising, the so-called iPhone SE2 is sounding like a relatively large phone. Does anyone make a nice 4.5" to 5" phone ? I wish there was a Sony. I'm not sure what other brands I'd consider. Maybe Google and One Plus, but they start at about 5.5" and 6.5" respectively.
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Posted: 2019-10-26 11:39:48
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On 2019-10-26 11:39:48, amardeep wrote:
At least you have a XZ1 Compact. I'm on a Z5 Compact (with a cracked back panel which is "uneconomic to repair"). I don't see any compact phones on the horizon, anywhere. I don't like the 21:9 aspect ratio, more so at the current sizes. Even defection to iOS doesn't sound promising, the so-called iPhone SE2 is sounding like a relatively large phone. Does anyone make a nice 4.5" to 5" phone ? I wish there was a Sony. I'm not sure what other brands I'd consider. Maybe Google and One Plus, but they start at about 5.5" and 6.5" respectively.
Get a Blackberry Key 2 LE then. Lol.
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Posted: 2019-10-26 12:11:29
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Sumahoinfo says:
Xperia 2
- SD865 + 5G
- 128GB and 512Gb
- 6GB
- Qi charging
- 20MP + 12MP + 8MP
The info comes from China.
I suspect 8MP might be periscope.
Because of longer FL, hardware gets worse to fit in the phone.
You need to double the length of the module if you want to keep same sensor.
I hope rear panel has same design of now. Cameras in the middle like X1 and flat glass like X5.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-10-26 14:14 ]
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Posted: 2019-10-26 14:55:56
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