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wapchimp Posts: > 500

I submitted some themes, but couldn't do a midi tune
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Posted: 2004-06-07 19:17:56
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Vlammetje Posts: > 500

Right, made my way to a PC so I can elaborate a bit.

It's the following 2 comments that annoyed me:

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On 2004-06-07 18:17:56, Superluminova wrote:
Yeah me too, not alot to choose from, and the standard of some themes was really poor.



Apparenly there isn't a lot of artists willing to participate in this competition and that is fine. Still there were a few who dared to participate, some may be better skilled tha others and some may not have had a lot of experience in theming before. At least they were all brave enough to submit something. I cannot stress enough that saying 'they're pretty much all rather poor' after the competiton closed, just doesn't go. These are the submissions and they deserve some courtesy. Simple as that.

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On 2004-06-07 18:23:28, ephil_24 wrote:
Look at the free themes download section here!! There are certainly some better themes than the ones of the competition(at least category 3)



This may suggest hat perhaps the themes submitted are not made by esato members... or simply that ppl didn't care for a competition. I don't know and I don't care.

Fact is that noen of those 'better' themes were submitted. deal with it.
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Posted: 2004-06-07 19:20:00
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Vlammetje Posts: > 500

I can't do midis either. I did try though, and they were all quite bad, so I chose not to submit. I have great respect for those that DID try though, as I know how hard it is to make one now

I posted a long way back in this thread that none of us are gifted with talent such as Moby's...... so the few people who had the guts to submit something, I salute them all
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Posted: 2004-06-07 19:23:00
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ephil_24 Posts: 282

Sorry vlam I didn't mean to critisise anyone.. I respect ppl that spent time to make a theme and submit it (I did too). Also I didn't mean that I didn't like any theme! Actually there are some I really like
By my comment I only meant to point out that not many ppl care about the competition.
As for the midis, I can't say anything more since I wouldn't do anything better
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Posted: 2004-06-07 19:31:03
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Superluminova Posts: > 500

hey iam only givin my opinion, ok maybe the way i worded it could have been better, and hats off to all the people like myself that took time to make theme's and ringtones (which i can't do),

but if something isn't great i don't think you should be false and say "its great i love it" because if people kept there thoughts to themeselves then things wouldn't get better,

the only way to progress is via learning from and one way to learn is from people giving you their input.

sorry if i offended anyone that was never my intention, i just gave a truthful opinion.
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Posted: 2004-06-07 19:40:57
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@Vlamm

I do apologise for getting so damned defensive, but I thought you were aiming your comments towards my good self. I do agree with you that it is extremely impolite to criticise those Esatonians who have created themes or ringtones and have submitted them and I would urge everyone to give those people and their work the respect it deserves.
Having said that, I stated this before and my fellow Scot, Superluminova has also just made the same point, it is better to give an honest opinion of someone's work rather than platitudes. As I have repeatedly said, I think that the standard of entries for both the theme categories was of a high standard with some entries being very smart indeed.
I have criticised the ringtones, but I feel that it has been constructive criticism; certainly I have not been rude about any of them. I don't see a point in participating in these events if everyone says that everything is great, if something is bad then it's bad, if it’s good then its good. By being honest about them I believe that I am giving them and their creators the respect they deserve.
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Posted: 2004-06-07 19:59:54
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Jim Posts: > 500

Voila I voted too, good luck to all
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Posted: 2004-06-07 20:34:33
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Vlammetje Posts: > 500

something else I'm wondering about... I'd estimate there are probably no more than then 10 to 15 ppl that participated in the whole competition...... I'd expect they'd all vote (probably have do so by now ) but just how many others do you all think will vote?
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Posted: 2004-06-07 20:54:07
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

Well I voted, democracy in action and all that.
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Posted: 2004-06-07 20:56:58
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ephil_24 Posts: 282

Well probably most ppl will vote.. I don't think that not making themes or ringtones means not participating at all.
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Posted: 2004-06-07 20:57:08
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