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Yah right
I agree
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Posted: 2005-05-15 08:25:52
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In adition to the fact that Wimax is designed to replace wired broadband, which means its main purpose is for static users.
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Posted: 2005-05-15 09:31:39
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@mustafabay
I read an article, which envisaged Wi-Max covering whole cities in a giant 'hot spot'. Quite a nice vision ...
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Posted: 2005-05-15 14:59:19
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@scotsboyuk
I was just highlighting that
does make EDGE terminals, albeit datacards alone, targetted for European market.
Anyway, I bet my 2 cents we will see in the near future some EDGE-capable handsets from
for Europe/Asian markets.
You might wonder why I posted it (feel free), but its I believe relevant to this thread. Anyway, not my problem.
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Posted: 2005-05-15 15:46:32
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@scotsboyuk
I hope your right.
@Super G
I wouldn't complain if they do, just hope your gut is accurate
With companies like Huaewi, or whatever its called its chinese, making 3G and 2.5G base stations I'd think some companies wouldn't care about edge, afterall they don't want you to have a cheap alternative to 3G. Of course I'm talking about countries that aren't already covered by 3G and have patchy networks outside cities.
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Posted: 2005-05-15 16:09:51
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On 2005-05-15 15:46:32, Super G wrote:
@scotsboyuk
Anyway, I bet my 2 cents we will see in the near future some EDGE-capable handsets from
for Europe/Asian markets.
There are already EDGE enabled handsets available in Europe, but they are almost useless in that respect. The manufacturers can really only follow the networks in such circumstances and the big networks are unlikely to deploy EDGE to any great extent in Europe.
Until the likes of Vodafone, O2, Orange, T-Mobile, etc implement EDGE on a broad level the manaufacturers are unlikely to make EDGE a major design concern.
SE are more likely to release EDGE enabled handsets for Asian markets than they are for European markets.
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Posted: 2005-05-15 17:11:48
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Hello buddy.Thanks fors the chat on IM :-) How many countries in europe do you think already offer EDGE ? In your previous post you mention something about EDGE enabled cellphone availability in Europe.I agree with you there.But you carry on stating - edge is almost useless in europe,now I have quite a few IM buddies nicelly spread all over Europe. I speak english,german,dutch and romanian all european languages :-) the info I get from them and what you are saying is 'a bit' different.Most don't even bother about 3G but happily embrace EDGE.It seems to me that in Europe as in the rest of the world,pricing is very important when marketing a product.Please don't get me wrong buddy, I am not rude with you or anything. 3G is more advanced and wonderfull and all that,but I think some time will pass till everybody accepts it. I am a bit worried thou,it may take to long and competing technologies may make it obsolete by the time everybody accepts it. Greetings from South Africa. Mario.
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Posted: 2005-05-16 07:17:02
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Posted: 2005-05-16 07:55:23
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Sony Will Ship EDGE Laptop In June
Wednesday, 1:40 PM source: Engadget / AP
Sony yesterday launched the T350, an ultraportable-class laptop with built-in GPRS / EDGE data capabilities as well as Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. The T350 ships with software from Cingular that makes signing on to their data service simple, and features SmartFi, a new technology to make switching between cellular and Wi-Fi data services effortless. The T350 does not support HSDPA, the 3G data technology that Cingular intends to launch, however it does have a PC Card slot to add a 3G data card. Sony has said they are looking into developing laptops with UMTS / HSDPA data capabilities, but have not made any formal decisions on a product yet.
http://www.phonescoop.com/
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Posted: 2005-05-16 08:06:00
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On 2005-05-13 15:41:32, scotsboyuk wrote:
Well the standard formatting used in English (the language we are all using here) is to put the slowest one at the left and work your way to the right where the fastest should be. Certainly that's how it is written most often as far as I can see.
I don't know what standards do you use in UK or if you had math in school. Those things that I used between technologies are mathematical symbols.
">" means "greater than", ie. the clause on the left side of the sign is bigger, or in this case faster, than the one on the right side.
It's good to learn something new every day...
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On 2005-05-13 15:41:32, scotsboyuk wrote:
You suggested that networks should use EDGE because it is not a competing technology with WCDMA.
Can't recall saying that. Could you point me where I have said that? I only said that those are not competing technologies. Period.
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On 2005-05-13 15:41:32, scotsboyuk wrote:
To be fair to the networks, 3G does roll off the tongue a little easier than WCDMA and 3.5G is in a similar position with HSDPA. It's all about buzzwords, the networks love buzzwords.
That's not exactly what I meant. For end user they should use something non-technical buzzword marketing, no 3G's, WCDMA, EDGE's. Something else.
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On 2005-05-13 15:41:32, scotsboyuk wrote:
Make no mistake about it, 3G covereage is definitely on the rise and I would say that within the next decade all EU nations at least will have some level of 3G covereage. This covereage will be at blanket levels in many nations and likely at near blanket levels in many others.
I think we have a bit different idea what is rapid. For you it seems that decade is rapid, but for me it's not. Also the vendors, who are actually delivering the infrastructure and devices, are saying that the development of 3G hasn't been as fast as expected.
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On 2005-05-13 15:41:32, scotsboyuk wrote:
One wonders then why you have such trouble in understanding the relatively simple arguments being forwarded here as to why EDGE is not supported by either SE in anything but a minority of their products.
One also wonders why Nokia has implemented it succesfully...
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On 2005-05-13 15:41:32, scotsboyuk wrote:
Ironic that you do believe your own hype though.
Anyone who believes that any mass technology involving the building of infrastructure on national and even continental levels will be smooth sailing is quite probably asking why gullible was removed from the dictionary at the moment.
I don't quite get what you're implying here. I wasn't hyping anything, quite opposite. You're the one who's hyping the rapid growth of 3G.
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On 2005-05-13 15:41:32, scotsboyuk wrote:
It is? As far as I can see the 3G market is heavily dominated, across Europe at any rate, by LG, NEC and Motorola as well as considerable input from SE. This is in no small part due to the fact that these manufacturers (with the exception of SE) have been used by 3, which was one of the first 3G networks in Europe.
I recall this funny thing about 3, when they launched 3G services. They didn't take Nokia 3G devices to their portfolio, because it didn't have video call capability. A short while after, probably because of low sales, they were kind of forced to took Nokia 7600 to their portfolio. The results of that can be read all over, here e.g.
http://techdigestuk.typepad.c[....]t/2004/03/threes_hit_phon.html . I couldn't find the news, but I remember reading somewhere that when 7600 sold 7000 - 10000 units per week, the second most sold device (some motorola) sold around 1000 units per week. Hence I wouldn't call it's dominated by those you raised.
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